Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 14 June 2013 18:09, Dave Angel wrote: > On 06/14/2013 05:43 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: > >> >> Another one, currently popular on the RaspberryPi micro computer is >> Scratch: >> >> http://scratch.mit.edu/**projects/editor/?tip_bar=**getStarted

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 06/14/2013 05:43 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 14/06/13 19:34, Jim Mooney wrote: I'm probably going to hear that's already been done, too ;') Not in 3D to my knowledge but visual programming for sure. One example was ObjectVision from Borland on the PC. It lacked a loop construct because it was

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 14/06/2013 22:46, Alan Gauld wrote: COBOL - COmmon Business Oriented Language. Designed in the 1950s to enable 'ordinary business users' to write their own programs and thus render programmers obsolete So what COBOL couldn't achieve is now being done with Applescript. -- "Steve is go

Re: [Tutor] sound implementation problems

On 14 June 2013 08:49, eryksun wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Jim Mooney > wrote: > > C:\>python -i -c "import os; os.chdir('C:/Python33')" > Well, that didn't work anyway. Got me the right directory and the interpeter, but I couldn't run a py file from command. Batch file didn'

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 14/06/13 20:09, Jim Mooney wrote: Of course, the real consideration, for those thinking of programming as a career path, is whether programmers will be as obsolete at gaslighters in twenty years - or will they be doing some sort of weird meta-programming? COBOL - COmmon Business Oriented La

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 14/06/13 19:34, Jim Mooney wrote: I'm probably going to hear that's already been done, too ;') Not in 3D to my knowledge but visual programming for sure. One example was ObjectVision from Borland on the PC. It lacked a loop construct because it was event driven but otherwise was a complete

Re: [Tutor] sound implementation problems

On 14 June 2013 13:35, Dave Angel wrote: > >> MS batch file py27.bat >> >> python2.7 -i -c "import os;os.chdir('c:/python27/**jimprogs');del(os) >> >> > That seems rather silly. Why not > > --py27.bat--- > c: > cd \python27\jimprogs > python2.7 %$ > - > That's certai

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 14 June 2013 13:47, Dave Angel wrote: > On 06/14/2013 03:09 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > > You mean you don't write your own microcode in hex? New fangled computers > get between us and the hardware. Give me instructions that directly > manipulate voltages, and I'll be happy again. > I guess t

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 06/14/2013 03:09 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: Of course, the real consideration, for those thinking of programming as a career path, is whether programmers will be as obsolete at gaslighters in twenty years - or will they be doing some sort of weird meta-programming? You mean you don't write

Re: [Tutor] sound implementation problems

On 06/14/2013 11:43 AM, Jim Mooney wrote: On 13 June 2013 21:53, Dave Angel wrote: On 06/13/2013 11:55 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: Alan Gauld This is for my own convenience on my own machine. As a former webmaster I'm of course used to idiot-proofing anything released into the wild so it is u

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

On 06/14/2013 03:59 PM, Matt D wrote: On 06/14/2013 03:14 PM, Dave Angel wrote: On 06/14/2013 10:48 AM, Matt D wrote: Hey, here is a snip of my code. #logger code-- # first new line #self.logfile.write('\n') # date and ti

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

On 06/14/2013 03:14 PM, Dave Angel wrote: > On 06/14/2013 10:48 AM, Matt D wrote: >> Hey, >> here is a snip of my code. >> >> #logger code-- >> # first new line >> #self.logfile.write('\n') >> # date and time >> #self.log

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

On 06/14/2013 10:48 AM, Matt D wrote: Hey, here is a snip of my code. #logger code-- # first new line #self.logfile.write('\n') # date and time #self.logfile.write('%s,'%(str(strftime("%

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

14 June 2013 11:59, student Tyler Northrip wrote: > In response to your points, voice command using visuals, this idea has > been explored before. In the book containment by Christian Cantrell theyuse > methods such as this. The main character places a helmet on his head, > and writes code using

[Tutor] Fwd: What are these two string-formatting styles called?

In response to your points, voice command using visuals, this idea has been explored before. In the book containment by Christian Cantrell they use methods such as this. The main character places a helmet on his head, and writes code using his mind. Voice command was also used as well. Will these

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

In response to your points, voice command using visuals, this idea has been explored before. In the book containment by Christian Cantrell they use methods such as this. The main character places a helmet on his head, and writes code using his mind. Voice command was also used as well. Will these

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 14 June 2013 10:56, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On 15/06/13 03:32, Jim Mooney wrote: > > Now you're going to tell me there's a programmer's keyboard ;') >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Space-cadet_keyboard > > http://upload.wikimedia.org/*

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 15/06/13 03:32, Jim Mooney wrote: Now you're going to tell me there's a programmer's keyboard ;') http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Space-cadet.jpg http://ageinghacker.net/hacks/apl-keyboard/apl-keyboard-2.jpg http://www

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 14 June 2013 09:40, eryksun wrote: > > or with built-in format(): > > >>> format(Decimal(1).exp(), '.27f') > '2.718281828459045235360287471' > I didn't know .format() also had a builtin. Are there many methods that are dual like that? On the one hand, it's more memorizing, but on the

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > On 14 June 2013 08:23, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >> What are these two string-formatting styles called? >> '%.3f' % x >> '{0:.3f}'.format(x) > > > The first one is a string Expression, using % as the overloaded operator > The second one is a strin

Re: [Tutor] sound implementation problems

On 14 June 2013 08:49, eryksun wrote: > C:\>doskey calc=c:\python33\python -c "from cmath import *;print($*)" > > C:\>calc e**(1j*pi/3) > (0.5001+0.8660254037844386j) > > Cool. I totally forgot about doskey macros. Still could be useful, and it > looks like they're still i

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 14 June 2013 08:23, Dotan Cohen wrote: > What are these two string-formatting styles called? > '%.3f' % x > '{0:.3f}'.format(x) > The first one is a string Expression, using % as the overloaded operator The second one is a string method, with .format() as the method for a string object put

Re: [Tutor] sound implementation problems

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > > My IDE startup script has been changed to also go to the proper working > directory. > BUT - Py 3.3 at the command prompt uses my 3.3 working directory, and Py 2.7 > ALSO uses the 3.3 working directory, which is not what I want, obviously. >

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

On 15/06/13 01:23, Dotan Cohen wrote: What are these two string-formatting styles called? '%.3f' % x '{0:.3f}'.format(x) "String formatting", and "string formatting" *wink* Sometimes the first is called "string interpolation". Sometimes it is called "printf-style formatting", after the C func

Re: [Tutor] sound implementation problems

On 13 June 2013 21:53, Dave Angel wrote: > On 06/13/2013 11:55 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > >> Alan Gauld >> > This is for my own convenience on my own machine. As a former webmaster I'm of course used to idiot-proofing anything released into the wild so it is usable by everyone on every machine ;')

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

On 14/06/13 15:37, Matt D wrote: There is a difference between where an error *occurs* and where an error is *detected*. got it. the error can be in the previous line. Yeah, or more. I've seen errors that originated 3 or 4 lines back from the reported location. So just remember that if you c

[Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

What are these two string-formatting styles called? '%.3f' % x '{0:.3f}'.format(x) Where in the fine manual is their names shown? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscri

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

Hey, here is a snip of my code. #logger code-- # first new line #self.logfile.write('\n') # date and time #self.logfile.write('%s,'%(str(strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S", gmtime()

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

On 06/14/2013 10:27 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 14/06/13 14:27, Matt D wrote: >> im sorry i dont get it. there is too many brackets in this lin: >> >> tmplist.append(field_values["nac"]) >> >> Thats where the error is > > No, that's where Python *detected* that an error existed. > The actual e

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

On 14/06/13 14:27, Matt D wrote: im sorry i dont get it. there is too many brackets in this lin: tmplist.append(field_values["nac"]) Thats where the error is No, that's where Python *detected* that an error existed. The actual error is on the previous line. This is quite common, espe

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

On 14/06/13 22:45, Matt D wrote: tmplist = [] tmplist.append((str(strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S", localtime( tmplist.append(field_values["nac"]) [...] When i run the code program dies like this: tmplist.append(field_values["nac"]) ^ SyntaxError: i

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

On Jun 14, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Matt D wrote: > im sorry i dont get it. there is too many brackets in this lin: > > tmplist.append(field_values["nac"]) > > Thats where the error is but i dont see too many brackets? Please don't top post. The error is not on this line, but on the previous

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

im sorry i dont get it. there is too many brackets in this lin: tmplist.append(field_values["nac"]) Thats where the error is but i dont see too many brackets? On 06/14/2013 08:56 AM, Flynn, Stephen (L & P - IT) wrote: > Not enough closing brackets on the previous line... or actually too

Re: [Tutor] Fwd: Re: Need Help Modifying a wxPython GUI (scrolling display and logging)

i am trying to figure a way to to use a list to log/print my data: # tmplist = [time, 'nac', 'tgid', 'source', 'dest', 'algid'] is what we want tmplist = [] tmplist.append((str(strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S", localtime( tmplist.append(field_values["nac"]) tmplis

Re: [Tutor] regex grouping/capturing

On 14.06.2013 10:48, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: I am trying to create a pygments regex lexer. Well, writing a lexer is a little bit more complex than your original example suggested. > Here's a simplfied example of the 'set' command that I would like to > parse. s = 'set workspace = 6148 he

Re: [Tutor] regex grouping/capturing

- Original Message - > From: Andreas Perstinger > To: tutor@python.org > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:09 PM > Subject: Re: [Tutor] regex grouping/capturing > > On 13.06.2013 17:09, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: >> I have a string of the form "required optional3 optional2 optional1 >>