Re: [Tutor] modulo

2012-10-07 Thread wrw
On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Esteban Izaguirre wrote: > Hi, I'm following coursera's learn to program: the fundamentals, which > teaches programming basics in python. Our first assignement involves the > modulo operator with a negative divident, and while I've managed to get to > understand it

Re: [Tutor] Through a glass, darkly: the datetime module

2012-10-07 Thread eryksun
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > The C programming language on Unix systems. > > "ls" instead of "list" "LS" is an abbreviation for "list segments", not "list". It goes back to Multics in the late 60s and 70s. In Multics, every segment is a file, and every file is a seg

Re: [Tutor] string rules for 'number'

2012-10-07 Thread eryksun
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Arnej Duranovic wrote: > > When I type this in the python idle shell ( version 3...) : > '0' <= '10' <= '9' > The interpreter evaluates this as true, WHY? 10 is greater than 0 but not 9 > Notice I am not using the actual numbers, they are strings...I tho

Re: [Tutor] string rules for 'number'

2012-10-07 Thread Arnej Duranovic
Alright guys, I appreciate all your help SO much. I know understand, as the gentleman above said " A string is a string is a string" doesn't matter what is in it and they are ordered the same way...BUT this is what was going through my head. Since letters are ordered in such a way that A is less th

Re: [Tutor] modulo

2012-10-07 Thread Dave Angel
On 10/07/2012 08:00 PM, Jan Karel Schreuder wrote: > > > On Oct 7, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Dave Angel wrote: > > >> >> It still makes no sense to me. There are at least two equally silly >> ways to define the results of a negative modulus, and you've properly >> described one of them, presu

Re: [Tutor] modulo

2012-10-07 Thread Dave Angel
On 10/07/2012 07:16 PM, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > On 8 October 2012 00:07, Dave Angel wrote: >> On 10/07/2012 06:49 PM, Esteban Izaguirre wrote: >>> Hi, I'm following coursera's learn to program: the fundamentals, which >>> teaches programming basics in python. Our first assignement involves the >>>

Re: [Tutor] modulo

2012-10-07 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 8 October 2012 00:07, Dave Angel wrote: > On 10/07/2012 06:49 PM, Esteban Izaguirre wrote: >> Hi, I'm following coursera's learn to program: the fundamentals, which >> teaches programming basics in python. Our first assignement involves the >> modulo operator with a negative divident, and while

Re: [Tutor] modulo

2012-10-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Hello Esteban and welcome! On 08/10/12 09:49, Esteban Izaguirre wrote: So, i undertand how modulo works when only positive numbers are used, but how does modulo determine, that, say -15 % 14 is equal to 13? Think of modulo as almost exactly the same as "remainder after division". When you sa

Re: [Tutor] modulo

2012-10-07 Thread Dave Angel
On 10/07/2012 06:49 PM, Esteban Izaguirre wrote: > Hi, I'm following coursera's learn to program: the fundamentals, which > teaches programming basics in python. Our first assignement involves the > modulo operator with a negative divident, and while I've managed to get to > understand it enough fo

Re: [Tutor] string rules for 'number'

2012-10-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On 08/10/12 05:20, Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] They'll be compared lexicographically, something I'm not inclined to attempt to explain so see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexicographical_order Please also be careful with your terminology. Note that I've used compared. Ordered is very diff

[Tutor] modulo

2012-10-07 Thread Esteban Izaguirre
Hi, I'm following coursera's learn to program: the fundamentals, which teaches programming basics in python. Our first assignement involves the modulo operator with a negative divident, and while I've managed to get to understand it enough for the purposes of the assignement with help from othe rst

Re: [Tutor] string rules for 'number'

2012-10-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On 08/10/12 04:46, Arnej Duranovic wrote: When I type this in the python idle shell ( version 3...) : '0'<= '10'<= '9' The interpreter evaluates this as true, WHY? 10 is greater than 0 but not 9 Notice I am not using the actual numbers, they are strings...I thought that numbers being

Re: [Tutor] Through a glass, darkly: the datetime module

2012-10-07 Thread Sander Sweers
Roel Schroeven schreef op zo 07-10-2012 om 21:19 [+0200]: > Sander Sweers schreef: > > > > Op 7 okt. 2012 04:29 schreef > > het volgende: > > > I'm also not sure but I seem to remember that it is > > > ("SUNDAY", "MONDAY", "TUESDAY", "WEDNESDAY", "THURSDAY", "FRIDAY",

Re: [Tutor] Through a glass, darkly: the datetime module

2012-10-07 Thread Roel Schroeven
Sander Sweers schreef: Op 7 okt. 2012 04:29 schreef > het volgende: > I'm also not sure but I seem to remember that it is > ("SUNDAY", "MONDAY", "TUESDAY", "WEDNESDAY", "THURSDAY", "FRIDAY", > "SATURDAY", "SUNDAY") > which I think is extremely clever because it ge

Re: [Tutor] string rules for 'number'

2012-10-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 07/10/2012 18:46, Arnej Duranovic wrote: When I type this in the python idle shell ( version 3...) : '0' <= '10' <= '9' The interpreter evaluates this as true, WHY? 10 is greater than 0 but not 9 Notice I am not using the actual numbers, they are strings...I thought that numbers b

Re: [Tutor] string rules for 'number'

2012-10-07 Thread boB Stepp
On Oct 7, 2012 12:47 PM, "Arnej Duranovic" wrote: > > When I type this in the python idle shell ( version 3...) : > '0' <= '10' <= '9' > The interpreter evaluates this as true, WHY? 10 is greater than 0 but not 9 Since they are strings it looks at these character by character. Since '

Re: [Tutor] string rules for 'number'

2012-10-07 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Arnej Duranovic wrote: > When I type this in the python idle shell ( version 3...) : > '0' <= '10' <= '9' > The interpreter evaluates this as true, WHY? 10 is greater than 0 but not 9 > Notice I am not using the actual numbers, they are strings...I thoug

[Tutor] string rules for 'number'

2012-10-07 Thread Arnej Duranovic
When I type this in the python idle shell ( version 3...) : '0' <= '10' <= '9' The interpreter evaluates this as true, WHY? 10 is greater than 0 but not 9 Notice I am not using the actual numbers, they are strings...I thought that numbers being string were ordered by their numerical val

Re: [Tutor] [Tkinter-discuss] whats Style()

2012-10-07 Thread Matthew Ngaha
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Re: [Tutor] [Tkinter-discuss] whats Style()

2012-10-07 Thread Matthew Ngaha
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Re: [Tutor] Through a glass, darkly: the datetime module

2012-10-07 Thread Alan Gauld
On 07/10/12 13:54, Wayne Werner wrote: fixed at birth, they have a horror of typing four characters when two would do. (I think this might apply to COBOL programmers, too.) -Wayne Oh no, COBOL programmers are the opposite. The more characters they type the longer they live It's a matte

Re: [Tutor] Through a glass, darkly: the datetime module

2012-10-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On 07/10/12 23:41, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 07/10/2012 02:50, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On 07/10/12 12:08, Richard D. Moores wrote: On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: Use calendar.day_name. How? By reading the Fine Manual. http://docs.python.org/library/calendar.html#calend

Re: [Tutor] Through a glass, darkly: the datetime module

2012-10-07 Thread Wayne Werner
On Sun, 7 Oct 2012, Steven D'Aprano wrote: It is a little-known fact that Unix sys admins, and C programmers, can only type a fixed number of keys before their brains explode. Sad but true. Since nobody knows how many keys that will be, but only that it is fixed at birth, they have a horror of t

Re: [Tutor] Through a glass, darkly: the datetime module

2012-10-07 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 07/10/2012 02:50, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On 07/10/12 12:08, Richard D. Moores wrote: On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: Use calendar.day_name. How? By reading the Fine Manual. http://docs.python.org/library/calendar.html#calendar.day_name which is so short that I ca

Re: [Tutor] Through a glass, darkly: the datetime module

2012-10-07 Thread Sander Sweers
Op 7 okt. 2012 04:29 schreef het volgende: > I'm also not sure but I seem to remember that it is > ("SUNDAY", "MONDAY", "TUESDAY", "WEDNESDAY", "THURSDAY", "FRIDAY", > "SATURDAY", "SUNDAY") > which I think is extremely clever because it gets around the problem > created by the fact that some peopl