Re: [Tutor] Tutor Digest, Vol 82, Issue 54

2010-12-12 Thread Hugo Arts
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Re: [Tutor] Tutor Digest, Vol 82, Issue 54

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
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Re: [Tutor] Tutor Digest, Vol 82, Issue 54

2010-12-12 Thread Corey Richardson
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Re: [Tutor] Tutor Digest, Vol 82, Issue 54

2010-12-12 Thread marupalli charan
os using vimscript and from your input I would guess > that assert would have just clouded the process. > > thanks again. > -- > Tim > tim at johnsons-web.com or akwebsoft.com > http://www.akwebsoft.com > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date:

Re: [Tutor] Writing to the terminal?

2010-12-12 Thread Alan Gauld
"Modulok" wrote For more complex stuff, (think blue screens with little white boxes you press spacebar to activate. Kind of like an OS installer) I would look into the `curses` module in the standard library? curses on Unix but its not in the std library for windows. I think there is a ve

Re: [Tutor] 'or' in assignment (not if statement)?

2010-12-12 Thread Alan Gauld
"Steven D'Aprano" wrote Spiced tea with milk. Well, technically, it just means "tea with milk", but in English chai is used exclusively for spiced tea Never heard of it I confess. I've heard the, presumably related, term char, meaning a cup of black tea (as in tea without milk, not black l

Re: [Tutor] Writing to the terminal?

2010-12-12 Thread Terry Carroll
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Which operating system and terminal did you use? In my experience, using print is not satisfactory... You're right; it worked under Windows, but not under Linux. Given the other details of the question, my suggestion is not an adequate solution.

Re: [Tutor] Writing to the terminal?

2010-12-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Terry Carroll wrote: import time for t in range(10,0, -1): print "%s \x0D" %t, time.sleep(1) print # get to next line print "Done!" Which operating system and terminal did you use? In my experience, using print is not satisfactory, because the print command buffers the output and doe

Re: [Tutor] 'or' in assignment (not if statement)?

2010-12-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Alan Gauld wrote: "Steven D'Aprano" wrote ordered a chai latte at a cafe. The waiter had no idea what that was, but must have known that "chai" means tea, and so mixed tea and coffee So now I've got to ask, what is a chai latte? I could Google it but I'm feeling lazy :-) Spiced tea with m

Re: [Tutor] Writing to the terminal?

2010-12-12 Thread Terry Carroll
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Modulok wrote: Assume I'm working in a command shell on a terminal. Something like tcsh on xterm, for example. I have a program which does *something*. Let's say it counts down from 10. How do I print a value, and then erase that value, replacing it with another value? Say I

Re: [Tutor] role playing game - help needed

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, David Hutto wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, David Hutto wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Walter Prins wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12 December 2010 19:16, David Hutto wrote:  I recall you making a habit of being an asshole(pystats sho

Re: [Tutor] Code evaluation inside of string fails with __get_item

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: > * Steven D'Aprano [101211 17:20]: >> Tim Johnson wrote: >> >>>   I've never had the occasion to use assert() or any other >>>   python - shooting tools, any thoughts on that? >> >> >> Assertions are a great tool, but never ever, under pain of

Re: [Tutor] role playing game - help needed

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, David Hutto wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Walter Prins wrote: >> >> >> On 12 December 2010 19:16, David Hutto wrote: >>> >>>  I recall you making a habit of being an >>> asshole(pystats should ring a bell, thanks for giving me the credit >>> for inspi

Re: [Tutor] role playing game - help needed

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Walter Prins wrote: > > > On 12 December 2010 19:16, David Hutto wrote: >> >>  I recall you making a habit of being an >> asshole(pystats should ring a bell, thanks for giving me the credit >> for inspiration...bitch) > > Rudeness objection.  Ad-hominem objection.

Re: [Tutor] role playing game - help needed

2010-12-12 Thread Walter Prins
On 12 December 2010 19:16, David Hutto wrote: > I recall you making a habit of being an > asshole(pystats should ring a bell, thanks for giving me the credit > for inspiration...bitch) > Rudeness objection. Ad-hominem objection. Come on, this is not kindergarten. We all have our foibles, and

Re: [Tutor] Code evaluation inside of string fails with __get_item

2010-12-12 Thread Tim Johnson
* Steven D'Aprano [101211 17:20]: > Tim Johnson wrote: > >> I've never had the occasion to use assert() or any other >> python - shooting tools, any thoughts on that? > > > Assertions are a great tool, but never ever, under pain of great pain, > use assert for testing user input or function

Re: [Tutor] role playing game - help needed

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:16 PM, David Hutto wrote: > On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> David Hutto wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/07/10 23:37, Robert Sjöblom wrote: > > I've been told to use input() if I know th

Re: [Tutor] Ressources for licensing

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:32 PM, David Hutto wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, David Hutto wrote: >> You need a file that sets the initial time used for the app(the time >> on the individuals computer), and a function that checks that initial >> start up file for the current time and the

Re: [Tutor] Ressources for licensing

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, David Hutto wrote: > You need a file that sets the initial time used for the app(the time > on the individuals computer), and a function that checks that initial > start up file for the current time and the original usage time of > first start up. > pseudocode: d

Re: [Tutor] Ressources for licensing

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
You need a file that sets the initial time used for the app(the time on the individuals computer), and a function that checks that initial start up file for the current time and the original usage time of first start up. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@pytho

Re: [Tutor] role playing game - help needed

2010-12-12 Thread David Hutto
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > David Hutto wrote: >> >> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Lie Ryan wrote: >>> >>> On 12/07/10 23:37, Robert Sjöblom wrote: I've been told to use input() if I know that I'll only get integers, and raw_input() for "everythin

Re: [Tutor] Any recommend of UML tool and UI design tool for python?

2010-12-12 Thread Knacktus
Am 12.12.2010 19:16, schrieb Alan Gauld: "cajsdy" wrote Either paid or free open source is fine. I'm creating automation frame work. Idealy it includes: test plan management, test manager across windows, unix, linux, solaris and other os. UML documentation for python scripts IDE tool for pyth

Re: [Tutor] Writing to the terminal?

2010-12-12 Thread Modulok
List, Thanks! I think I got it working now with the help of some suggestions :-) For more complex stuff, (think blue screens with little white boxes you press spacebar to activate. Kind of like an OS installer) I would look into the `curses` module in the standard library? Thanks! -Modulok-

Re: [Tutor] Any recommend of UML tool and UI design tool for python?

2010-12-12 Thread Alan Gauld
"cajsdy" wrote Either paid or free open source is fine. I'm creating automation frame work. Idealy it includes: test plan management, test manager across windows, unix, linux, solaris and other os. UML documentation for python scripts IDE tool for python on windoes and linux UI design tool fo

Re: [Tutor] 'or' in assignment (not if statement)?

2010-12-12 Thread Alan Gauld
"Steven D'Aprano" wrote ordered a chai latte at a cafe. The waiter had no idea what that was, but must have known that "chai" means tea, and so mixed tea and coffee So now I've got to ask, what is a chai latte? I could Google it but I'm feeling lazy :-) Alan G.

Re: [Tutor] role playing game - help needed

2010-12-12 Thread Alan Gauld
"David Hutto" wrote > That is a bad piece of advice. You should only use input() when > you can > fully trust whoever doing the input (i.e. you). Who uses the crap we, as noobies produce? Hopefully you do. And can you really be absolutely sure you won't accidentally type a dangerous command

[Tutor] Any recommend of UML tool and UI design tool for python?

2010-12-12 Thread cajsdy
Either paid or free open source is fine. I'm creating automation frame work. Idealy it includes: test plan management, test manager across windows, unix, linux, solaris and other os. UML documentation for python scripts IDE tool for python on windoes and linux UI design tool for python(best is int

Re: [Tutor] Writing to the terminal?

2010-12-12 Thread Hugo Arts
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Wayne Werner wrote: >> >> Try that in the interactive interpreter, it doesn't work. >> >>> print "a" + chr(13) >> a >> (Python 2.6.6) > > Actually, it does: >  >>> print 'a' + chr(13) + 'b' > b > The cursor moves back, you just didn't bother to overwrite the 'a'. >

Re: [Tutor] using a networked data file

2010-12-12 Thread Bill Allen
Wayne, Yes, you have characterized it pretty well. Additionally, it will be accessed typically by maybe a dozen individuals, typically only reading information from the database and infrequently writing to it. --Bill On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Wayne Werner wrote: > > > I think the large

Re: [Tutor] Slicing Tuples

2010-12-12 Thread John Russell
Thanks to all for your answers, especially those that went into detail about why its done in that way. As far as whether this is actually addressed in the book, as far as I can tell by going a few pages forward, it does not. In fact, after the code there's a how it works section which only added t

Re: [Tutor] using a networked data file

2010-12-12 Thread Wayne Werner
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Bill Allen wrote: > David, > > Thanks for the feedback. I should have been more specific on the usage of > the data. The data will be some email addresses, names, department, and an > indicator if the email address is internal to the business or an external >

Re: [Tutor] Writing to the terminal?

2010-12-12 Thread Wayne Werner
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Corey Richardson wrote: > > > On 12/10/2010 3:34 PM, Wayne Werner wrote: > >> If you just want a single line you can use chr(13) which is a carriage >> return. If you want a more complex program you'll need a curses type >> library >> hth, wayne >> >> On 12/10/10,

Re: [Tutor] Ressources for licensing

2010-12-12 Thread Knacktus
Am 12.12.2010 03:42, schrieb David Hutto: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Knacktus wrote: Hi everyone, can anybody recommend a lib or some other ressources about license mechanisms of desktop applications written in python. I'm thinking of a license-key that can be used to limit the time the