Re: [Tutor] Help Needed

2009-06-15 Thread Alan Gauld
"Raj Medhekar" wrote I am looking to build a program that gets a message from the user and then prints it backward. I 've been at it for hours now but I can't seem to figure it out. So tell us what you re thinking? How would you solve it manually? I've been having trouble trying to inde

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread Wayne
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Michael Powe wrote: > I don't like GUI-based stuff, > though, so right off, any editor built on the assumption that I'm a > mouse-oriented user is right out. That's why I'm a solid vim user. I can't stand touching the mouse when I'm coding. It just breaks up t

Re: [Tutor] Help Needed

2009-06-15 Thread Wayne
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Raj Medhekar wrote: > I am looking to build a program that gets a message from the user and then > prints it backward. I 've been at it for hours now but I can't seem to > figure it out. I've been having trouble trying to index the message so I can > print it out b

Re: [Tutor] Help Needed

2009-06-15 Thread Serdar Tumgoren
Hi Raj, It might be easier if you create a simple test string inside the python interpreter and then tinker with it there. once you've found the solution, you can graft it onto the broader program that accepts user input. For example, you might create the following variable message = "This

[Tutor] Help Needed

2009-06-15 Thread Raj Medhekar
I am looking to build a program that gets a message from the user and then prints it backward. I 've been at it for hours now but I can't seem to figure it out. I've been having trouble trying to index the message so I can print it out backwards. I would've posted my code but I really haven't go

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Powe
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:34:04AM -0700, Emile van Sebille wrote: > On 6/15/2009 2:49 AM Tom Green said... > >Yes, vim or any text editor is suitable for Python, but I > >prefer having a nice GUI interface while coding. I mean the automobile > >replaced the horse and buggy, while they both get

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Powe
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:30:50AM -0700, johnf wrote: > On Sunday 14 June 2009 07:31:53 pm Michael Powe wrote: > > However, I will say that while following this thread, it occurred to > > me that the one feature that VS and even the VBA editor in MS Office > > has, is the ability to pop you into

Re: [Tutor] 3.0 on Mac

2009-06-15 Thread Vincent Davis
Here is what my .bash_profile looks like, This is in my user directory " # Setting PATH for EPD_Py25 v4.3.0 # The orginal version is saved in .bash_profile.pysave PATH="/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin:${PATH}" export PATH PYTHONPATH="/Volumes/iDisk/match/python" export PY

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread Alan Gauld
"Emile van Sebille" wrote Anyone know of any studies comparing text based vs GUI IDE based code development? As I recall, programming productivity is measured in LOC/day and last time I noticed it seemed to be a very small number. When I started in "software engineering" (c1985) the typical

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread Chris Mueller
for note; full tag completion and tag support can be used in vim via omnicompletion and taglists. Full class support/heiarchy + printing of the docscrint as you ctrl-n through each completion in the preview window. Extremly useful when using someone else's library or for remembering what to pass i

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 6/15/2009 2:49 AM Tom Green said... Yes, vim or any text editor is suitable for Python, but I prefer having a nice GUI interface while coding. I mean the automobile replaced the horse and buggy, while they both get you to your destination I would still rather travel in a car. Anyone know

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread johnf
On Sunday 14 June 2009 07:31:53 pm Michael Powe wrote: > > However, I will say that while following this thread, it occurred to > me that the one feature that VS and even the VBA editor in MS Office > has, is the ability to pop you into the debugger on error. This > feature is so useful that it s

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread Michael Connors
Back when I used Windows I used this: http://www.crimsoneditor.com/ I think its not being developed anymore, but it is a great editor/IDE that supports many languages. -- Michael Connors ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/ma

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread OkaMthembo
I second Tom Green, when i started off with Python i mainly used Pyscripter on Windows and its excellent. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Tom Green wrote: > For Windows check out PyScripter. Its IDE is similar to Borland Delphi and > I find it very easy to use. Whatever works for you would be

Re: [Tutor] Audio Framework for Python

2009-06-15 Thread Kent Johnson
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Tycho Andersen wrote: > All: > > I'm interested in writing a simple media player in python. I've been > poking around on the internet for a framework that can play the common > audio formats (mp3, flac, ogg, etc.), but I haven't found one that I > liked a whole lot.

[Tutor] Audio Framework for Python

2009-06-15 Thread Tycho Andersen
All: I'm interested in writing a simple media player in python. I've been poking around on the internet for a framework that can play the common audio formats (mp3, flac, ogg, etc.), but I haven't found one that I liked a whole lot. PyMedia looks promising, but I've been struggling to build it on

Re: [Tutor] Best Python Editor

2009-06-15 Thread Tom Green
This has been a great discussion and when I first entered college I was required to take Pascal. At that time we used Turbo Pascal IDE--if you want to call it an IDE. As with anything technology advances and we have new tools for the job and I became spoiled once Visual Studio hit the market. I

Re: [Tutor] Need a solution.

2009-06-15 Thread Alan Gauld
"spir" wrote Actually, it seems that only in the scientific field values are everywhere top-level things. Values _are_ the kind of things maths manipulate. Right? Thats an interesting observation that had not occured to me but I think you are right. What is interesting to me is that when

Re: [Tutor] Need a solution.

2009-06-15 Thread spir
Le Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:55:58 +0100, "Alan Gauld" s'exprima ainsi: > I think that you have a valid point but that "pure value" objects > occur far less often than you might think. I always treat a value > object as a sign that I've probably put some processing code > in the wrong place! Only wh