Re: [Tutor] two ways

2005-11-10 Thread Shi Mu
thanks! On 11/10/05, Liam Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Shi, > > For what you're doing, nothing at all. > > When you use a colon, slice syntax, it defaults to [start:end] so p = > a[:] is the same as > p = a[0:len(a)] > > Regards, > > Liam Clarke > > On 11/11/05, Shi Mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Tutor] two ways

2005-11-10 Thread Shi Mu
what is the difference between the two ways of assigning the list? p=a vs. p=a[:] >>> a=range(5) >>> a [0, 1, 2, 3, 4] >>> p=a >>> p [0, 1, 2, 3, 4] >>> p=a[:] >>> p [0, 1, 2, 3, 4] ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/li

Re: [Tutor] simple report writing?

2005-11-10 Thread Johan Geldenhuys
Did you manage to get something that worked for you? Johan CPIM Ronin wrote: >Can someone suggest a specific tutorial strictly on report writing? > >I'm able to write reports fairly easily in Python. I know the stuff like >str(round(x,2)) where x = 3.145678 will yield 3.14. What I'm looking for

Re: [Tutor] logging to a database

2005-11-10 Thread Johan Geldenhuys
Try looking here; http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysql-python Johan captnswing wrote: >Hello all, >I would like to log messages to a database (mysql) >I found the example log_test14.py that comes with python logging >module http://www.red-dove.com/python_logging.html >but that example is a bi

Re: [Tutor] triangulation

2005-11-10 Thread Shi Mu
I see. maybe some websites are blocked to me. On 11/10/05, Danny Yoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Shi Mu, > > There are some direct ways you can find a delaunay triangulation > implementation in Python. In fact, the first Google hit to "triangulation > python" should come up with something r

Re: [Tutor] OT - Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Simon Gerber
> But that was the PAST. This is FINALLY the FUTURE. And while I am a bit > disappointed those flying cars that were promised aren't here yet, we of the > future now have the luxury of white space with no downside. Whaddaya mean, no flying cars? http://www.moller.com/skycar/ Aside from that, th

[Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Terry Kemmerer
A good natured word of explanation for Chris and others: Rest assured I am not criticizing the FORM and USE of white space that Python so eloquently uses, and subsequently makes it so beautiful and easy to read to the eye, by my example of a single line of BASIC. Actually, back in the day, I

Re: [Tutor] Who called me?

2005-11-10 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005, Kent Johnson wrote: >Bill Campbell wrote: > >>The problem I'm working on now is to have our client's machines connect to >>our XML-RPC server in cron jobs which will do at least two things, check to >>see if their dynamic IP address has changed so we can update DNS for them, >

Re: [Tutor] Who called me?

2005-11-10 Thread Kent Johnson
Bill Campbell wrote: > The problem I'm working on now is to have our client's machines connect to > our XML-RPC server in cron jobs which will do at least two things, check to > see if their dynamic IP address has changed so we can update DNS for them, > and/or let our system know they're still al

Re: [Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Liam Clarke-Hutchinson
Title: Message Hi Terry,   Python is great, very much so if the last you used was Basic.   I highly recommend Alan Gauld's tutorial, but I look forward to your queries here. :-) Liam Clarke-Hutchinson -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [Tutor] Who called me?

2005-11-10 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005, Kent Johnson wrote: >Kent Johnson wrote: >> Bill Campbell wrote: >> >>>Is there a way in python for a method to determine its parent? >>> >>>In particular, I'm working with SimpleXMLRPCServer, and would >>>like to be able to find the client_address in the routine that >>>has

[Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Terry Kemmerer
I want to thank everyone for their responses. This has help tremendously to ease my mind. Thanks! Branching in the program, is actually my real anxiety, as I have been feeling the void, (maybe that should be WITHDRAWALS!) as I am working my way through How To Think Like a Computer Scientist

[Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Terry Kemmerer
(I accidentally sent this to the originator. Sorry.) Sweet!  Almost everything is sooo familiar, yet, merged in many interesting ways. I never had a DO WHILE statement, but in many ways, your further examples are like a combination of my old FOR NEXT loop and IF logical evaluation statement

Re: [Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Alan Gauld
> compared Python to old style BASIC. You might find it helpful if you > were weaned on BASIC. You can still find the old site here: > > http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/oldtutor/ > > Check out the Loops topic for the GOTO discussion. Oops, so long since I looked at that version...

Re: [Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Alan Gauld
> In Basic, I would have said: > > 10 x = x + 1 : print x : goto 10 Tsk, tsk, even in BASIC that's considered bad form :-) 10 FOR X =1 to 10 20 PRINT X 30 NEXT Would be the better BASIC form. And as you've seen Python provides a close analog to that in its for loop. for X in [1,2,3,4,

Re: [Tutor] triangulation

2005-11-10 Thread Danny Yoo
Hi Shi Mu, There are some direct ways you can find a delaunay triangulation implementation in Python. In fact, the first Google hit to "triangulation python" should come up with something relevant. Also, try the search "triangulation" in: http://www.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search_form A

Re: [Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Terry Kemmerer wrote: > I'm working on Ch. 5, "Fruitful Functions", or "How To Think Like A > Computer Scientist" and I still can't count. > (Don't laugh! I can't play the violin either...) > > In Basic, I would have said: > > 10 x = x + 1 : print x : goto 10 Good heave

Re: [Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Roel Schroeven
Terry Kemmerer wrote: > I'm working on Ch. 5, "Fruitful Functions", or "How To Think Like A > Computer Scientist" and I still can't count. > (Don't laugh! I can't play the violin either...) > > In Basic, I would have said: > > 10 x = x + 1 : print x : goto 10 > > run > 1 > 2 > 3 > etc > >

Re: [Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Kent Johnson
Terry Kemmerer wrote: > In Basic, I would have said: > > 10 x = x + 1 : print x : goto 10 > > run > 1 > 2 > 3 > etc > > How is this done in Python? (So I can stop holding my breath as I study > this great languageand relax.) In Python there is no goto, as you have discovered. Loops

Re: [Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread John Fouhy
On 11/11/05, Terry Kemmerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm working on Ch. 5, "Fruitful Functions", or "How To Think Like A > Computer Scientist" and I still can't count. > (Don't laugh! I can't play the violin either...) > > In Basic, I would have said: > > 10 x = x + 1 : print x : goto 10

[Tutor] Newbie Anxiety

2005-11-10 Thread Terry Kemmerer
I'm working on Ch. 5, "Fruitful Functions", or "How To Think Like A Computer Scientist" and I still can't count. (Don't laugh! I can't play the violin either...) In Basic, I would have said: 10  x = x + 1 :  print x : goto 10 run 1 2 3 etc I don't know why, but this great UNKNOWN bother

Re: [Tutor] triangulation

2005-11-10 Thread Jason Massey
lol, that's just funny. On 11/10/05, Shi Mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the Internet is down for one day and so wonderful to have so many > responses. i have checked all the links you guys mentioned. what i > want is delaunay triangulation and the available ones online are > written in C, Java

Re: [Tutor] triangulation

2005-11-10 Thread Shi Mu
the Internet is down for one day and so wonderful to have so many responses. i have checked all the links you guys mentioned. what i want is delaunay triangulation and the available ones online are written in C, Java and FORTRAN. I want to see some in Python because it is hard for me to figure out

[Tutor] numeric typeError

2005-11-10 Thread Jeff Peery
hello, I'm getting this strange error:   myArray1[1:2]   = myArray2[3:4]   TypeError: Array can not be safely cast to required type   everytime I try to copy a slice from one array to the next this error occurs. the slices are the same size and I initialized the arrays using Numeric.zeros(10, 'Flo

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2005-11-10 Thread Jeff Peery
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2005-11-10 Thread Jeff Peery
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Re: [Tutor] python watchfolder as daemon

2005-11-10 Thread Hugo González Monteverde
Hi, I do this all the time. I use a recipe, and import a daemon module. The module is here: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/278731 in your script, just do import daemon and daemon.createDaemon() Works like a charm. Hugo Frank Hoffsümmer wrote: > Hello all, > I found

Re: [Tutor] Finding wich word matched in a OR re

2005-11-10 Thread Kent Johnson
Bernard Lebel wrote: > Hello, > > I have compiled this regular expression, with 3 strings. Basically it > looks like this. > > r'word1|word2|word3' > > The point is to try to match one of these words in a string. > > Now let say I indeed got a match in a string. How can I find out wich > one, b

Re: [Tutor] Finding wich word matched in a OR re

2005-11-10 Thread Bernard Lebel
Never mind, just came accross "groups" of the match object. Can't believe there is such a nice feature! Cheers Bernard On 11/10/05, Bernard Lebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have compiled this regular expression, with 3 strings. Basically it > looks like this. > > r'word1|word2|

[Tutor] Finding wich word matched in a OR re

2005-11-10 Thread Bernard Lebel
Hello, I have compiled this regular expression, with 3 strings. Basically it looks like this. r'word1|word2|word3' The point is to try to match one of these words in a string. Now let say I indeed got a match in a string. How can I find out wich one, between word1-word2-word3 has the string be

[Tutor] logging to a database

2005-11-10 Thread captnswing
Hello all, I would like to log messages to a database (mysql) I found the example log_test14.py that comes with python logging module http://www.red-dove.com/python_logging.html but that example is a bit greek for me ... :) and it doesnt work with mysql is there some kind of tutorial how to get

Re: [Tutor] triangulation

2005-11-10 Thread Alex Hunsley
Alan Gauld wrote: >>As in Pythagoras? >> >> > > > >>Or as in triangulation on a 2D surface, navigation etc.? >> >> > > > >>Or, do you mean radio triangulation by directional signal propagation >> >> > > > >>Or, do you mean drawing a triangle in Tkinter? >> >> > >Or even trian

Re: [Tutor] python watchfolder as daemon

2005-11-10 Thread Alex Hunsley
Frank Hoffsümmer wrote: >Hello all, >I found this gem of a python recipe that allows me to monitor a hierarchy of >folders on my filesystem for additions / changes / removals of files: >http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/215418 > >I would like to monitor a folder hierarchy us

[Tutor] ftp transfer - queue & retry pattern

2005-11-10 Thread Frank Hoffsümmer
Hello, I want to write a module that transfers a given file to a given destination with a given protocol (ftp, sftp, scp) to start out, just ftp would be sufficient the destination machines are sometimes unavailable, or the transfer fails sometimes due to connection problems I have several questio

[Tutor] python watchfolder as daemon

2005-11-10 Thread Frank Hoffsümmer
Hello all, I found this gem of a python recipe that allows me to monitor a hierarchy of folders on my filesystem for additions / changes / removals of files: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/215418 I would like to monitor a folder hierarchy using this script but now I wonde

Re: [Tutor] [Fwd: Re: Spanish text in BS problem]

2005-11-10 Thread Hugo González Monteverde
Hi Ismael, I'm glad you found the answer. It is very enlightening as I thought I had to do with locale and did some tests without getting the problem (I do not have BS installed now) As I speak Spanish this had got me worried. :/ Hugo Ismael Garrido wrote: > Found the problem myself. > (loo

Re: [Tutor] [OT] triangulation

2005-11-10 Thread Dan Klose
Hello, On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 11:00 +0100, Joerg Woelke wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 02:04:20PM +1300, John Fouhy wrote: > > On 10/11/05, Gregor Lingl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > but Shi Mu didn't ask for a program in English ;-) > > > > This is pretty off-topic, but --- > > > > Is it po

Re: [Tutor] [OT] triangulation

2005-11-10 Thread Joerg Woelke
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 02:04:20PM +1300, John Fouhy wrote: > On 10/11/05, Gregor Lingl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > but Shi Mu didn't ask for a program in English ;-) > > This is pretty off-topic, but --- > > Is it possible to be a programmer and not speak English? Are there any > languages ou

Re: [Tutor] [OT] triangulation

2005-11-10 Thread Joerg Woelke
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 01:55:37AM +0100, Gregor Lingl wrote: > > > Liam Clarke-Hutchinson schrieb: > > German is an awesome language, I love the compound words (if that's what > > they are). What does 'Gegenuhrzeigersinn' mean in English? > > > > counterclockwise Try "Donaudampfschifffahrtska

[Tutor] Latin Perl

2005-11-10 Thread Matt Williams
The suprising thing about Latin Perl is that it's more readable than normal Perl Matt ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] [OT] triangulation

2005-11-10 Thread Alan Gauld
> Is it possible to be a programmer and not speak English? Are there any > languages out there where the reserved words, library functions, etc. > are in (say) German? This is second-hand news so treat with caution but a colleague of mine used to work for Norsk Data in Norway writing financial pro