Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

Right well I suppose I can see this as a system of routing anonymously to a key. I was just wondering about using tor ostensibly as a network interface module and I suppose it could be compiled as a library elf and other applications can be made for working with certain aspects of tor and passing s

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

>> was just looking at BGP routing over tor. I'm not sure how to do that with >> the current implementation over hidden service. I'm having a hard time >> working out how to use it as layer 2 and encapsulate things over the >> network from one hidden service to another. > > This is because Tor only

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

Kevin Burress writes: > honestly, ideally it would be a lot easier to do things with tor if it > actually internally followed the unix philosophy and the layers of service > could be used as a part of the linux system and modular use of the parts. I > was just looking at BGP routing over tor. I'm

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

On May 28, 2018 10:06:05 PM UTC, Kevin Burress wrote: >Now whether or not all of this power consumption is a coverup for the >quantum capibilities of the NSA is a matter of speculation, but the >fact of the matter is they are breaking encryption and they did spend >$2 billion on a datacenter for t

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

Okay, a little more grounded, about the Utah datacenter in 2012: "The NSA project now aims to break the "exaflop barrier" by building a supercomputer a hundred times faster than the fastest existing today, the Japanese "K Computer." That code-breaking system is projected to use 200 megawatts of po

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

Now whether or not all of this power consumption is a coverup for the quantum capibilities of the NSA is a matter of speculation, but the fact of the matter is they are breaking encryption and they did spend $2 billion on a datacenter for that sole purpose. On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:04 PM, Kevin

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

https://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-warns-of-instant-breaking-of-encryption-by-quantum-computers-move-your-data-today/ https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/post-quantum-cryptography https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-quantum_cryptography http://www.etsi.org/news-events/news/947-2015-03-news-etsi-launches-qua

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

Kevin Burress wrote: > > We know that ecdsa is weak against a quantum computer, as well as rsa. The > only evidence I can provide is publicly available: > https://cointelegraph.com/news/nsa-will-not-use-quantum-computers-to-crack-bitcoin-antonopoulos > Well, with all due respect, Andreas Antonop

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

S7r I generally agree with you there. There is no evidence that it has been broken. Thus we can only go by what these agencies are saying or hinting about their capabilities. I certainly don't think that in this case it is required and must negotiate with post quantum cryptography, only that as a f

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

RSA/ECDSA are both screwed. SPHINCS seems good. Post quantum asymcrypt doesn't seem generally ready yet, but hashes work. 2018-05-26 9:04 GMT+02:00 Jacki M : > Here is the parent trac ticket for PQ > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/24985 >

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

honestly, ideally it would be a lot easier to do things with tor if it actually internally followed the unix philosophy and the layers of service could be used as a part of the linux system and modular use of the parts. I was just looking at BGP routing over tor. I'm not sure how to do that with th

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

For current work on postquantum handshake support in Tor, see proposals 263, 269, 270, and ticket #24985. A digression: Personally, I don't agree that the evidence is so convincing about the NSA being able to break 256-bit ECDSA today: if they have it, then they'd treat it as a big secret, and no

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

This is worth looking at and I'd fully support such a project. On 5/26/2018 1:39 AM, Kevin Burress wrote: Hi, I was just wondering since the NSA has quantum computers that can break ECDSA (As they have stated they could break bitcoin in an interview, and telecomix unlocked Cameron's hard driv

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

Here is the parent trac ticket for PQ https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/24985 > On May 25, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Kevin Burress wrote: > > Hi, > > I was just wondering since the NSA has quantum computers that can break > ECDSA

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

I think someone wanted to implement supersingular isogeny(misspelled i guess ?) diffie hellman but then someone pointed out that it had some flads, i guess what we could do is update to curve 448 , i think dont think they can break all kinds of ec doe , and ofc Curve25519 got a big target on it

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

This is what I've been wondering as well :) (and with Bitcoin) On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Kevin Burress wrote: > Hi, > > I was just wondering since the NSA has quantum computers that can break > ECDSA (As they have stated they could break bitcoin in an interview, and > telecomix unlocked

[tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

Hi, I was just wondering since the NSA has quantum computers that can break ECDSA (As they have stated they could break bitcoin in an interview, and telecomix unlocked Cameron's hard drive.) When is Tor going to be upgraded to post quantum? Can we at least hack together an interleaving of RSA and

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This is a funny thread. We should continue it. I'm going to be completely random and ask who likes to eat popcorn... Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast, long, or perfect response... On Sep 4, 2013 10:30 AM, "Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb" wrote: > On 4 Sep 2013, at 14:51, "D. Collins" wrote:

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Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Cryptography

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:55:13 -0700 Max wrote: > Hallo Tor-Devs, > > considering that D-Wave now claims to have a programmable quantum > computer, wouldn't it be nice for Tor to use post-quantum cyrptography? Unfortunately, a lot of quantum "secure" cryptography already broken without any quant

[tor-talk] Post Quantum Cryptography

Hallo Tor-Devs, considering that D-Wave now claims to have a programmable quantum computer, wouldn't it be nice for Tor to use post-quantum cyrptography? http://www.dwavesys.com/en/dw_homepage.html "A full suite of software tools is included in the D-Wave TwoTM system, ranging from all the low-l