Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-10 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Moritz Bartl (mor...@torservers.net): > On 10.03.2011 08:21, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > > Again, that's true only if you are damaging user's traffic and so your > > "filtering" doesn't break in any case: > > a) don't break user traffic > > b) don't break exit scanner traffic > >

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-10 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, On 10.03.2011 08:21, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > Again, that's true only if you are damaging user's traffic and so your > "filtering" doesn't break in any case: > a) don't break user traffic > b) don't break exit scanner traffic > c) break "just some kind" of more noisy and malicious/agg

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-10 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 3/9/11 11:58 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Tor has currently has no facility for those users who are happy to > have random third parties screw with their traffic to opt-into it, or > those who would want to avoid it to opt out. This means that anything > you to the traffic will have random inex

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-09 Thread Sebastian Lechte
On 09.03.2011 23:29, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > It's not censorship but a chance to attract more TOR exit node > maintainer by simplifying the costs and risks in running a TOR exit node. I'd rather stay a middle/entry node than employing shady filters. _

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-09 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 3/10/11 2:04 AM, Robert Ransom wrote: > On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:29:16 +0100 > "Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)" wrote: > >> On 3/9/11 11:20 PM, Robert Ransom wrote: >>> Try running "man tor |grep -C5 OutboundBindAddress". >> >> You didn't got the technical need, the need is to redirect only TOR-exit >

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-09 Thread Robert Ransom
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:29:16 +0100 "Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)" wrote: > On 3/9/11 11:20 PM, Robert Ransom wrote: > > Try running "man tor |grep -C5 OutboundBindAddress". > > You didn't got the technical need, the need is to redirect only TOR-exit > traffic. > > OutboundBindAddress make *all*, in

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > Yes but that's more complex, with iptables you can redirect TCP ports, > but from your TOR node not all traffic going for example to port 80 is > http, but a lot of it it's TOR. > > If you redirect it to a transparent proxy you'll b

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-09 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 3/9/11 11:20 PM, Robert Ransom wrote: > Try running "man tor |grep -C5 OutboundBindAddress". You didn't got the technical need, the need is to redirect only TOR-exit traffic. OutboundBindAddress make *all*, including intra-tor, communications go trough that IP address: "Make all outbound conne

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-09 Thread Robert Ransom
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:23:15 +0100 "Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)" wrote: > i've been thinking and playing a lot about the various possible risk > mitigation scenarios for TOR exit node maintainer. > > Now i need to be able to pass all web traffic trough a transparent proxy > in order to implement so

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-09 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 3/9/11 7:35 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > [snip] > > If you start inspecting and screwing with third party traffic you will > be bad-exited. It depends on how you do it. The important things is to be really careful not to create "collateral damage" while you apply some kind of security. Avoiding

Re: [tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > Hi all, > i've been thinking and playing a lot about the various possible risk > mitigation scenarios for TOR exit node maintainer. > > Now i need to be able to pass all web traffic trough a transparent proxy > in order to implement

[tor-talk] Making TOR exit-node IP address configurable

2011-03-09 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
Hi all, i've been thinking and playing a lot about the various possible risk mitigation scenarios for TOR exit node maintainer. Now i need to be able to pass all web traffic trough a transparent proxy in order to implement some kind of filters to prevent specific web-attacks, web-bruteforce, etc,