Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread Collin Anderson
Tor would not be validating the nature or security of the hosted site, rather the JSON would be confirming attributes of the visitor. I cannot imagine many scenarios where a malicious party stands to benefit from forging these credentials -- or for that matter a manner where they could not fake a c

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:00:08 Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > Let's support that AccessNow https://www.accessnow.org/ would like to > implement the privacybadge web widget, they have several options: A word of caution about privacy badges, learning the history of TRUSTe is relevant, htt

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread Julian Yon
On 06/11/11 19:59, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > I like the idea of everything being in a single script - to prevent hot > linking that falsely suggests someone is using Tor... Preventing hot linking doesn't prevent deception. Mallory can just host the image elsewhere. -- 3072D/D2DE707D Julian Yon (2

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 11/06/2011 09:13 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > I agree with Fabio on this one. A website explaining the badge should > also mention the controversy and offer simple guides for local badge > generation. You could also promote other sources for the badge, ie. the > CCC and Torservers could host one. >

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread Moritz Bartl
I agree with Fabio on this one. A website explaining the badge should also mention the controversy and offer simple guides for local badge generation. You could also promote other sources for the badge, ie. the CCC and Torservers could host one. As for badge design, a script should support multipl

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 11/6/11 1:46 PM, t...@lists.grepular.com wrote: > Clearly a lot of people don't even consider these problems though. The > number of people using Google Analytics is proof enough of that. We should also consider that a lot of activism organizations promoting freedom of expression are not techni

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread tor
On 06/11/11 01:26, Arturo Filastò wrote: > I have made a patch to check.torproject.org to expose a JSONP interface > that would allow people to have the user check client side if (s)he is > using Tor. It would be safer to expose a JSON web service than a JSONP web service, and use a wild "Access-

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread tor
On 06/11/11 12:46, t...@lists.grepular.com wrote: > The content-type should be application/json or at the very least text/plain. I was clearly talking rubbish here; the content type should be a javascript one. Still, I was completely correct about the danger of using text/html and allowing arbitr

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread tor
On 06/11/11 10:20, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > c) Almost no website today can work with Javascript disabled As a long time NoScript user, I completely disagree with this. Almost every website today works completely fine without JavaScript. In fact, most websites work *better* without JavaSc

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread Michael Zeltner
Excerpts from Jim's message of 2011-11-06 06:06:39 +0100: > Arturo Filastò wrote: > > I have made a patch to check.torproject.org to expose a JSONP interface > > that would allow people to have the user check client side if (s)he is > > using Tor. > > Is encouraging Java Script a good idea? While

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 11/6/11 6:06 AM, Jim wrote: > Arturo Filastò wrote: >> I have made a patch to check.torproject.org to expose a JSONP interface >> that would allow people to have the user check client side if (s)he is >> using Tor. > > Is encouraging Java Script a good idea? a) Javascript is a de-facto Web Tec

Re: [tor-talk] Implement JSONP interface for check.torproject.org

2011-11-06 Thread Jim
Arturo Filastò wrote: I have made a patch to check.torproject.org to expose a JSONP interface that would allow people to have the user check client side if (s)he is using Tor. Is encouraging Java Script a good idea? I must be getting crotchety in my old my age! Jim _