Re: [tor-talk] How secure is a hidden service?

2020-02-21 Thread Mirimir
On 02/21/2020 03:41 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > Services on the internet are inherently harder to make safe than clients, > (a) because they stay at the same place for long periods of time, and > (b) because the attacker can induce them to generate or receive traffic, > in a way that's harder

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2020-02-21 Thread grarpamp
On 2/17/20, Mirimir wrote: > On 02/17/2020 05:16 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: >> But I'll turn it around, and point out that many systems (e.g. most VPNs) >> are centralized, that is, the number is 100 percent. > > Yes, a VPN service is for sure 100% centralized, regarding ownership and > managemen

Re: [tor-talk] How secure is a hidden service?

2020-02-21 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 07:25:32AM +0100, Robin Lee wrote: > I'm wondering how hidden a hidden service actually is? Because last > week charges were brought against Flugsvamp, a Swedish darknet drug > shop. In the documents made public for the court case the police states > that is was able to trac

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2020-02-21 Thread proc...@riseup.net
Whonix now provides a hardened vanilla Debian spin (no Tor used) that ships a version of Tor Browser that is exactly this. It is rebranded so people are not confused about what it does. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://

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2020-02-21 Thread proc...@riseup.net
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[tor-talk] How secure is a hidden service?

2020-02-21 Thread Robin Lee
Hi I'm wondering how hidden a hidden service actually is? Because last week charges were brought against Flugsvamp, a Swedish darknet drug shop. In the documents made public for the court case the police states that is was able to trace the actual ip-addresses of the onion- addresses. Flugsvamp ha