Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread CANNON NATHANIEL CIOTA
On 2016-06-05 16:34, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-05 17:20, Allen wrote: So randomizing the times that traffic enters the network and exits the network wouldn't work? Like it enters a note and 30 ms after received or another random delay couldn't it exit. It would be harder to co

[tor-talk] doing a google search creates a 403 forbidden when I'm on the tor network

2016-06-05 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hello to all. I was just on the tor network and launched google to do a google search. I got a 403 forbidden when trying to search for something. I know this might not be fixable, but Can this at least be noted somewhere? Here is the contents of the error. 403. That’s an error. Your client do

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 22:44, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 08:06 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: On Jun 5, 2016 10:28 PM, wrote: It looks like our sender just compromised their anonymity (or at least finally switched to a psudonym). "Hi. I’m Nick Farr" (sent from the same address that sent the http://jaco

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jun 5, 2016 11:44 PM, "Mirimir" wrote: > > On 06/05/2016 08:06 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2016 10:28 PM, wrote: > >> > >> It looks like our sender just compromised their anonymity (or at least > > finally switched to a psudonym). "Hi. I’m Nick Farr" (sent from the same > > address

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jun 5, 2016 11:37 PM, wrote: >> Oh OK, sorry for making that assumption. Nah, no problem. Everybody is too stressed and worried in this moment. Take care and be well! :) -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.tor

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Mirimir
On 06/05/2016 08:06 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Jun 5, 2016 10:28 PM, wrote: >> >> It looks like our sender just compromised their anonymity (or at least > finally switched to a psudonym). "Hi. I’m Nick Farr" (sent from the same > address that sent the http://jacobappelbaum.net/ link). We now h

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 22:06, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: On Jun 5, 2016 10:28 PM, wrote: It looks like our sender just compromised their anonymity (or at least finally switched to a psudonym). "Hi. I’m Nick Farr" (sent from the same address that sent the http://jacobappelbaum.net/ link). We now have more

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jun 5, 2016 10:28 PM, wrote: > > It looks like our sender just compromised their anonymity (or at least finally switched to a psudonym). "Hi. I’m Nick Farr" (sent from the same address that sent the http://jacobappelbaum.net/ link). We now have more information on who sent out the original mess

Re: [tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:50, Anthony Papillion wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:47 PM, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 05:36 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: On 6/5/2016 6:30 PM, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrie

Re: [tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:47, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 05:36 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: On 6/5/2016 6:30 PM, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: The last time IOError twee

Re: [tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:41, Anthony Papillion wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:35 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-05 19:30, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-

Re: [tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:36, Anthony Papillion wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:30 PM, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: The last time IOE

Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:13, Anthony Papillion wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:08 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: Hi Anthony. I am really worried about Jake and contacted some friends in common yesterday and today. I had no news until now. I really don't know if he is

Re: [tor-talk] Tor (and other nets) probably screwed by Traffic Analysis by now

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:02, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Personally the idea of storing a ton of data isn't the best for me so rather I simply use Tor + private search engines and trust it to protect me. ton = ? -Jonathan On Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:15 PM, "notfrien...@riseup.net" wrote: On 2016-06-05

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 18:43, Paul Syverson wrote: On Sun, Jun 05, 2016 at 05:20:24PM -0400, Allen wrote: > > So randomizing the times that traffic enters the network and exits the > network wouldn't work? Like it enters a note and 30 ms after received or > another random delay couldn't it exit. It would

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 15:38, jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions wrote: https://medium.com/@nickf4rr/hi-im-nick-farr-nickf4rr-35c32f13da4d Hi. I’m Nick Farr. (@nickf4rr) I used to be a pretty effective organizer working behind the scenes at Hacker Events in Europe and on various projects back in the US

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 17:52, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: On Jun 5, 2016 5:37 PM, "jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions" < jacobappelbaum@yandex.com> wrote: The conspiracy of silence is unravelling around Jake and luckily, it hasn’t been forty years. My dear, Sorry, I can't believe in someone who is usi

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates on hardening a Debian VPS?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 20:38, ng0 wrote: On 2016-06-05(03:24:16-0800), I wrote: notfriendly, This was a dig at the list. When questions are asked to get help they are told to stop wasting list attention and to be relevant or go elsewhere, but look at the energy on the list today. Jacob has contribu

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 20:44, tor_t...@arcor.de wrote: Hi Tor Talkers, when a Tor developer gets harassed by FBI (talk is done already last months) there is no doubt about whose side we are when Jacob Appelbaum gets into sexual allegations (within the community) i would have had no doubt to tell that th

[tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread tor_talk
Hi Tor Talkers, when a Tor developer gets harassed by FBI (talk is done already last months) there is no doubt about whose side we are when Jacob Appelbaum gets into sexual allegations (within the community) i would have had no doubt to tell that the community is up to he is innocent until jud

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates on hardening a Debian VPS?

2016-06-05 Thread ng0
On 2016-06-05(03:24:16-0800), I wrote: > > notfriendly, > > This was a dig at the list. > When questions are asked to get help they are told to stop wasting list > attention and to be relevant or go elsewhere, but look at the energy on the > list today. > > Jacob has contributed to Tor and that i

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 17:20, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 03:55 AM, Cari Machet wrote: it was umn ... sarcasm Dude, you need to flag that in text comms :) that any organization has not inset into its guidelines ways of really structurally dealing with sexual misconduct is profoundly unethical just

Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:14, Anthony Papillion wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: The last time IOError tweeted was on 30 May. Has anyone on this list actually HEARD from him since then?

Re: [tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:47 PM, Mirimir wrote: > On 06/05/2016 05:36 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >> On 6/5/2016 6:30 PM, Mirimir wrote: >>> On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: > On 2016-0

Re: [tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Mirimir
On 06/05/2016 05:36 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: > On 6/5/2016 6:30 PM, Mirimir wrote: >> On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >>> On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: The last time IOError tweeted was on 30 May. Has

Re: [tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:35 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: > On 2016-06-05 19:30, Mirimir wrote: >> On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >>> On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: The

Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:23, Anthony Papillion wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:20 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-05 19:08, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: Hi Anthony. I am really worried about Jake and contacted some friends in common yesterday and today. I h

Re: [tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:30 PM, Mirimir wrote: > On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >> On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: >>> On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: The last time >>> IOError tweeted was on 30 May. Has anyone

Re: [tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:30, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: The last time IOError tweeted was on 30 May. Has anyone on this list actually HEARD from him since then? We have

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates on hardening a Debian VPS?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:24, I wrote: notfriendly, This was a dig at the list. When questions are asked to get help they are told to stop wasting list attention and to be relevant or go elsewhere, but look at the energy on the list today. Jacob has contributed to Tor and that is where my interest stops

[tor-talk] [OFF-LIST] Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Mirimir
On 06/05/2016 05:14 PM, Anthony Papillion wrote: > On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: >> On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: The last time IOError >> tweeted was on 30 May. Has anyone on this list actually HEARD from >> him since then? We have to remember that Jake comes f

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates on hardening a Debian VPS?

2016-06-05 Thread I
notfriendly, This was a dig at the list. When questions are asked to get help they are told to stop wasting list attention and to be relevant or go elsewhere, but look at the energy on the list today. Jacob has contributed to Tor and that is where my interest stops. The rest is for the peopl

Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:20 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: > On 2016-06-05 19:08, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: >> Hi Anthony. >> >> I am really worried about Jake and contacted some friends in >> common yesterday and today. I had no news until now. >> >> I reall

Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 19:08, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: Hi Anthony. I am really worried about Jake and contacted some friends in common yesterday and today. I had no news until now. I really don't know if he is receiving my messages or reading them and I tried to contact some CCC friends, but I don't know

Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 5:43 PM, notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: > On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: The last time IOError > tweeted was on 30 May. Has anyone on this list actually HEARD from > him since then? We have to remember that Jake comes from a

Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 6/5/2016 6:08 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > Hi Anthony. > > I am really worried about Jake and contacted some friends in > common yesterday and today. I had no news until now. > > I really don't know if he is receiving my messages or reading them

Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Hi Anthony. I am really worried about Jake and contacted some friends in common yesterday and today. I had no news until now. I really don't know if he is receiving my messages or reading them and I tried to contact some CCC friends, but I don't know if he is in Berlin or not. He is, probably,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor (and other nets) probably screwed by Traffic Analysis by now

2016-06-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
> Personally the idea of storing a ton of data isn't the best for me so rather I simply use Tor + private search engines and trust it to protect me. ton = ? -Jonathan On Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:15 PM, "notfrien...@riseup.net" wrote: On 2016-06-05 17:59, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> Anothe

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Not Friendly
Why are the people who know his being silent (or not responding to the discussion)? What does it imply? > On Jun 5, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Lara wrote: > > jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions: >> https://medium.com/@nickf4rr/hi-im-nick-farr-nickf4rr-35c32f13da4d >> >> Hi. I’m Nick Farr. (@nickf4rr)

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Lara
jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions: > https://medium.com/@nickf4rr/hi-im-nick-farr-nickf4rr-35c32f13da4d > > Hi. I’m Nick Farr. (@nickf4rr) A bunch of trolls inventing vague stories. The people who know Jake seem silent. Yet sock puppets seem to know a lot. They have never talked before, only no

Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 The last time IOError tweeted was on 30 May. Has anyone on this list actually HEARD from him since then? We have to remember that Jake comes from a really fucked up childhood. Something like these alleg

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread Paul Syverson
On Sun, Jun 05, 2016 at 05:20:24PM -0400, Allen wrote: > > > > So randomizing the times that traffic enters the network and exits the > > network wouldn't work? Like it enters a note and 30 ms after received or > > another random delay couldn't it exit. It would be harder to correlate the > > traff

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates on hardening a Debian VPS?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 18:35, I wrote: What are the current best things to do to a Debian VPS to stop being puppeted by clever dicks? Robert I have a few suggestions: * Use SSH Key Based Authnication only (no password based login) * Update your software frequently * Enable IPTables and only allow port

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions
http://ethi.cx/forty.html For Forty Years... Joe Paterno – praised college football coach and idol to hundreds of thousands of people – continued in silence, allowing Jerry Sandusky to nurture a mechanism that leveraged the Penn State football program to prey on his victims, which totals 32 at

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates on hardening a Debian VPS?

2016-06-05 Thread I
What are the current best things to do to a Debian VPS to stop being puppeted by clever dicks? Robert -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

[tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet?

2016-06-05 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 The last time IOError tweeted was on 30 May. Has anyone on this list actually HEARD from him since then? We have to remember that Jake comes from a really fucked up childhood. Something like these allegations could push someone over the edge. Anthon

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 18:17, Mirimir wrote: On 06/05/2016 03:52 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: On Jun 5, 2016 5:37 PM, "jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions" < jacobappelbaum@yandex.com> wrote: The conspiracy of silence is unravelling around Jake and luckily, it hasn’t been forty years. My dear, Sorr

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Mirimir
On 06/05/2016 03:52 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Jun 5, 2016 5:37 PM, "jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions" < > jacobappelbaum@yandex.com> wrote: > >>> The conspiracy of silence is unravelling around Jake and luckily, it > hasn’t been forty years. > > My dear, > > Sorry, I can't believe in

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 18:13, df. wrote: Nice speech, it looks like you put some time and effort in to it but it would make a lot more sense to make a case against someone by presenting factual evidence against that person and not trying to make absurd comparisons on a mailing list between two things that

Re: [tor-talk] Tor (and other nets) probably screwed by Traffic Analysis by now

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 17:59, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Another idea is to use search engines that protect your privacy such as ixquick or duckduckgo (they store search queries but they don't track individuals (I.e they don't store your IP Address, as far as we know that is). Those are solutions of a differe

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread df.
Nice speech, it looks like you put some time and effort in to it but it would make a lot more sense to make a case against someone by presenting factual evidence against that person and not trying to make absurd comparisons on a mailing list between two things that have almost nothing in common.

Re: [tor-talk] Tor (and other nets) probably screwed by Traffic Analysis by now

2016-06-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
> Another idea is to use > search engines that protect your privacy such as ixquick or duckduckgo > (they store search queries but they don't track individuals (I.e they > don't store your IP Address, as far as we know that is). Those are solutions of a different kind.  What I'm trying to descri

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jun 5, 2016 5:37 PM, "jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions" < jacobappelbaum@yandex.com> wrote: >> The conspiracy of silence is unravelling around Jake and luckily, it hasn’t been forty years. My dear, Sorry, I can't believe in someone who is using Jake's own name for posting anonimously a

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions
https://medium.com/@nickf4rr/hi-im-nick-farr-nickf4rr-35c32f13da4d Hi. I’m Nick Farr. (@nickf4rr) I used to be a pretty effective organizer working behind the scenes at Hacker Events in Europe and on various projects back in the USA. After a deliberate campaign of abuse orchestrated by Jake App

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 17:37, juan wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 17:13:41 -0400 notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: So randomizing the times that traffic enters the network and exits the network wouldn't work? Like it enters a note and 30 ms after received or another random delay couldn't it exit. It would be h

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread juan
On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 17:13:41 -0400 notfrien...@riseup.net wrote: > So randomizing the times that traffic enters the network and exits > the network wouldn't work? Like it enters a note and 30 ms after > received or another random delay couldn't it exit. It would be harder > to correlate the traff

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 17:20, Allen wrote: So randomizing the times that traffic enters the network and exits the network wouldn't work? Like it enters a note and 30 ms after received or another random delay couldn't it exit. It would be harder to correlate the traffic right? IMO, the packets would

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Mirimir
On 06/05/2016 03:55 AM, Cari Machet wrote: > it was umn ... sarcasm Dude, you need to flag that in text comms :) > that any organization has not inset into its guidelines ways of really > structurally dealing with sexual misconduct is profoundly unethical > > just another way tor is super fucked

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread Allen
> > So randomizing the times that traffic enters the network and exits the > network wouldn't work? Like it enters a note and 30 ms after received or > another random delay couldn't it exit. It would be harder to correlate the > traffic right? IMO, the packets would probably need to be randomly d

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 14:34, grarpamp wrote: On 6/5/16, Not Friendly wrote: After about an hour of brain storming I may of found a way to stop traffic correlation attacks. The idea is to add an artificial delay of a few randomized ms (two separate delays, one to the tor exit and another deal on traff

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 16:36, jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions wrote: http://ethi.cx/forty.html For Forty Years... Joe Paterno – praised college football coach and idol to hundreds of thousands of people – continued in silence, allowing Jerry Sandusky to nurture a mechanism that leveraged the Penn St

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 14:31, Flipchan wrote: Got any beta code on this? Maybe add/c ode it as a daemon ?;) Not Friendly skrev: (5 juni 2016 16:40:52 CEST) After about an hour of brain storming I may of found a way to stop traffic correlation attacks. The idea is to add an artificial delay of a few ra

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 13:46, juan wrote: On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:03:45 +0200 carlo von lynX wrote: Julia Schramm who did everything right, https://torrentfreak.com/fail-prominent-pirate-party-politician-polices-book-pirates-120918/#disqus_thread just in case some people still haven't realize

Re: [tor-talk] Tor (and other nets) probably screwed by Traffic Analysis by now

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 13:38, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Prediction market (place your bids): "First networks utilizing fill traffic as TA countermeasure to emerge and reach early deployment by year end 2017..." It's a bit off-topic, but it's worth keeping in mind what the greater free software community is

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 13:22, df. wrote: I agree with Cecilia on this. These are serious allegations but, Allegations are not equal to Convictions. Should this man not have the right to a fair trial? The tor project is not about throwing someones rights out the window. We all have opinions and are fre

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 12:39, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: On Jun 5, 2016 12:32 PM, wrote: Wow I just read the site. It makes me quite sad, the videos of his presentations never indicated he would do something like that. Sorry, we don't know if something happened or not, if Jake did something or not. Som

Re: [tor-talk] Jacob, A legacy tarnished by hubris

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 12:18, Cari Machet wrote: Please do not demean turks thank you for your clear statement however On Jun 5, 2016 6:33 PM, wrote: In the few interactions I had with Jacob over the years he gave a vibe of being an arrogant, self-worshiping narcissist prick with with delusions of gra

Re: [tor-talk] Jacob, A legacy tarnished by hubris

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 11:25, t...@sigaint.org wrote: In the few interactions I had with Jacob over the years he gave a vibe of being an arrogant, self-worshiping narcissist prick with with delusions of grandeur and an ego the size of a small planet, but he has spent a decade in the Tor Project and desp

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread grarpamp
On 6/5/16, Not Friendly wrote: > After about an hour of brain storming I may of found a way to stop traffic > correlation attacks. The idea is to add an artificial delay of a few > randomized ms (two separate delays, one to the tor exit and another deal on > traffic exiting the network) and add an

Re: [tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread Flipchan
Got any beta code on this? Maybe add/c ode it as a daemon ?;) Not Friendly skrev: (5 juni 2016 16:40:52 CEST) >After about an hour of brain storming I may of found a way to stop >traffic correlation attacks. The idea is to add an artificial delay of >a few randomized ms (two separate delays, one

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-06-05 Thread juan
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:03:45 +0200 carlo von lynX wrote: > Julia Schramm who did everything > right, https://torrentfreak.com/fail-prominent-pirate-party-politician-polices-book-pirates-120918/#disqus_thread just in case some people still haven't realized that "politician" mean

Re: [tor-talk] Tor (and other nets) probably screwed by Traffic Analysis by now

2016-06-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
> Prediction market (place your bids): > "First networks utilizing fill traffic as TA countermeasure to emerge and reach early deployment by year end 2017..." It's a bit off-topic, but it's worth keeping in mind what the greater free software community is good at-- like replicating data-- and wha

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-06-05 Thread df.
I agree with Cecilia on this. These are serious allegations but, Allegations are not equal to Convictions. Should this man not have the right to a fair trial? The tor project is not about throwing someones rights out the window. We all have opinions and are free to share them, but it is irresp

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-06-05 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jun 5, 2016 12:32 PM, wrote: >> Wow I just read the site. It makes me quite sad, the videos of his presentations never indicated he would do something like that. Sorry, we don't know if something happened or not, if Jake did something or not. Some of my personal friends hate Jacob. Jake is

Re: [tor-talk] Jacob, A legacy tarnished by hubris

2016-06-05 Thread Cari Machet
Please do not demean turks thank you for your clear statement however On Jun 5, 2016 6:33 PM, wrote: > In the few interactions I had with Jacob over the years he gave a vibe of > being an arrogant, self-worshiping narcissist prick with with delusions of > grandeur and an ego the size of a small p

[tor-talk] Jacob, A legacy tarnished by hubris

2016-06-05 Thread tect
In the few interactions I had with Jacob over the years he gave a vibe of being an arrogant, self-worshiping narcissist prick with with delusions of grandeur and an ego the size of a small planet, but he has spent a decade in the Tor Project and despite his tragic character flaws he has achieved mu

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-06-05 Thread notfriendly
On 2016-06-05 11:03, carlo von lynX wrote: Woah, looks like some people took those JTRIG slides quite literally. The problem with (in)justice in open activist communities is that, even should the facts be clear, those facts affect private details of life of either contendants or third parties, w

Re: [tor-talk] http://jacobappelbaum.net/

2016-06-05 Thread carlo von lynX
Woah, looks like some people took those JTRIG slides quite literally. The problem with (in)justice in open activist communities is that, even should the facts be clear, those facts affect private details of life of either contendants or third parties, which makes it inacceptable to disclose in pub

[tor-talk] A possible solution to traffic correlation attacks,

2016-06-05 Thread Not Friendly
After about an hour of brain storming I may of found a way to stop traffic correlation attacks. The idea is to add an artificial delay of a few randomized ms (two separate delays, one to the tor exit and another deal on traffic exiting the network) and add an extra chunk of randomized data (just

Re: [tor-talk] delete my email-address on mailing list

2016-06-05 Thread Juan Miguel Navarro Martínez
You can do it yourself. There's information on how to at the footer of all messages in this mail list. El 05/06/16 a las 13:25, Renate Margarete Wöhltjen-Baumann escribió: > please delete my email-address fom the mailing list. I will no more > receiving any emails from tor-talk. > > With kind reg

[tor-talk] delete my email-address on mailing list

2016-06-05 Thread Renate Margarete Wöhltjen-Baumann
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Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Cari Machet
i dont like this leader stardum fucked upness - dont have leaders and they cant take them out - but while you are feeling bad for an elitist please maybe take 1 second to recognize the put upon on this globe the letter fr Tor states that they were aware of some things before so... On Sun, Jun 5,

Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror?

2016-06-05 Thread Cari Machet
it was umn ... sarcasm that any organization has not inset into its guidelines ways of really structurally dealing with sexual misconduct is profoundly unethical just another way tor is super fucked up On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Mirimir wrote: > On 06/04/2016 09:38 PM, Cari Machet wrote: