Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread grarpamp
" Apple Apple wrote: Blocking Tor does not change the fact that you have an SQLi vulnerability (or whatever). The problem is not Tor but the logic that dictates it is easier and cheaper to ban a few IP addresses than to actually secure your shit. There really should be more focus on demanding hi

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Tom van der Woerdt wrote: > If you work in a call center with a company computer, you have absolutely no > reason to use Tor. Some spend all day on Tor, including consulting with private customers, researching issues over it, and interacting from IP's local to th

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread aka
IBM also develops surveilance hardware for oppressive regimes, no surprise they are against free speech and democracy. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/eff-files-amicus-brief-case-seeks-hold-ibm-responsible-facilitating-apartheid Anders Andersson wrote: > I couldn't find what they mean with "

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread Paul Syverson
Hi Tom, On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 03:42:49PM +0200, Tom van der Woerdt wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Yes, my example was a simplification of the issue here. The point > was that in some corporate environments (not all of them), the usage > of Tor may be unwanted unless permission is explicitly given to the

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
Hi Paul, Yes, my example was a simplification of the issue here. The point was that in some corporate environments (not all of them), the usage of Tor may be unwanted unless permission is explicitly given to the employee. Of course at a lot of companies this is not true and IBM's advice should

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread Paul Syverson
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:08:26AM +0200, Tom van der Woerdt wrote: > In some corporate environments this would be a reasonable thing to > do. And the article that started this thread is about corporate > networks. > > If you work in a call center with a company computer, you have > absolutely no

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread Apple Apple
On 27 Aug 2015 10:53, "cyb3rwr3ck" wrote: > I am tired of hearing stuff like "the developers should do their > homework and fix their shit" Any yooha can stick PHP on their resume and get a job writing web applications. Personally I mark the problem down as sheer incompetence on the side of the d

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread tor
Or maybe they do realize. We already know that the NSA/GCHQ do not appreciate Tor (per their own "Tor Stinks" report included within the Edward Snowden released content). A process which over time encourages the internet at large to reject Tor connections (plus makes ISPs generally unwilling

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread cyb3rwr3ck
On 27.08.2015 10:50, spriver wrote: > After downloading Tor I just had to set up the proxy > in the network settings of Tor. It worked right out of the box. I was a > bit surprised because we have a bit strict access list for websites and > a really high security standard. (and I do not understand

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread spriver
Hi, I will share my experience with getting into Tor out of my companies network (one in the top ten of the biggest employers in Germany): The website torproject.org is blocked entirely, but nearly all mirrored websites do work. After downloading Tor I just had to set up the proxy in the network

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread Jeremy Harmer
I may have glossed over much of the report after seeing them say 'Some are whistleblowers or citizens of repressive regimes with (allegedly) ³pure² motives.¹ - biased from the outset. IBM MSS data apparently shows an increase in attacks via Tor - ok, so where is their data? What percentage of the

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
In some corporate environments this would be a reasonable thing to do. And the article that started this thread is about corporate networks. If you work in a call center with a company computer, you have absolutely no reason to use Tor. If you did use Tor, it would most likely be a red flag tha

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread Apple Apple
Blocking Tor does not change the fact that you have an SQLi vulnerability (or whatever). The problem is not Tor but the logic that dictates it is easier and cheaper to ban a few IP addresses than to actually secure your shit. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread Peter Tonoli
Quoting Virgil Griffith : "In general, networks should be configured to deny access to websites such as www.torproject.org" Blocking Tor exit nodes is one thing, but this is just bizarre. They could make a claim that privacy from your boss is something they wish to prevent, but I saw no such c

Re: [tor-talk] IBM says Block Tor

2015-08-27 Thread Anders Andersson
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:08 AM, CJ wrote: > > People using Tor for "bad things" just don't realize how they fuck up > the whole thing. Not even mentioning "weird contents", just the script > kiddies running metasploit/other through Tor. If the realize or not is irrelevant. They don't care about