Re: [tor-talk] Use of TOR [sic] for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/21/15, grarpamp wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Paul A. Crable wrote: >> I'd support censorship if I was in charge of it > > You won't be. > >> but I doubt most others would go along with my idea. > > No one here will be either. As you've discovered, it's > non negotiable. > >> So

Re: [tor-talk] Use of TOR [sic] for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Paul A. Crable wrote: > I'd support censorship if I was in charge of it You won't be. > but I doubt most others would go along with my idea. No one here will be either. As you've discovered, it's non negotiable. > So I guess we must leave things as they are, fl

Re: [tor-talk] Use of SUNLIGHT for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Christian Gagneraud
On 21/05/15 01:31, thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de wrote: Bonjour Christian, About good & bad, right & wrong: fell free to discuss this with your murder if he comes cutting your throat and kidnapping your daughter for selling her as sex slave. Lol! That the same kind of arguments the proponent

Re: [tor-talk] Use of TOR [sic] for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread justsayin
>Is there some way to keep TOR out of the hands of sleazebags and crooks? I ask this myself often when I see people with mobile phones taking intruding pictures of strangers for their amusement without regards to other peoples privacy rights. Is there some way to keep MOBILE PHONES with CAMERAS o

[tor-talk] Use of TOR [sic] for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Paul A. Crable
First, the author of "Future Crime" is Marc Goodman, not MacDonald as I erroneously reported. Second, thanks for the thoughtful replies. Your points about avoiding censorship are well taken. I really can't think of any way to separate the wheat from the chaff without some form of censorship. I'

Re: [tor-talk] reverse enumeration attacks on bridges (re: 100-foot overview on Tor)

2015-05-20 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 06:48:52PM +0300, s7r wrote: > Speaking of, it's a long time I have been asking myself this, why does > a bridge with PT need a publicly open ORPort? > > I understand it for a regular bridge, no PT, but when I use PTs why > should I also open the ORPort publicly? I understa

Re: [tor-talk] Firefox with Tor on Android?

2015-05-20 Thread Jens Lechtenboerger
Hi Nathan, many thanks for your quick reply! On 2015-05-19, Nathan Freitas wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2015, at 04:33 PM, Jens Lechtenboerger wrote: >> the usage instructions for Tor on Android at >> https://www.torproject.org/docs/android.html.en >> are unsafe for Firefox users. > >> Firefox on An

Re: [tor-talk] Firefox with Tor on Android?

2015-05-20 Thread benjamin barber
im not sure that using TOR on android is anonymous. Sure your favicons are leaking your ip, however android itself is a leaky OS, that and backdoors whatever agencies currently have. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act#Technical_implementation On Tue, Ma

Re: [tor-talk] reverse enumeration attacks on bridges (re: 100-foot overview on Tor)

2015-05-20 Thread s7r
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Speaking of, it's a long time I have been asking myself this, why does a bridge with PT need a publicly open ORPort? I understand it for a regular bridge, no PT, but when I use PTs why should I also open the ORPort publicly? I understand the PT need

Re: [tor-talk] reverse enumeration attacks on bridges (re: 100-foot overview on Tor)

2015-05-20 Thread Philipp Winter
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:42:27AM +0800, Virgil Griffith wrote: > Tom: If a hostile relay receives a connection from a ip-address A that > is not listed in the Tor consensus, as far as I understand the hostile > relay stills has two possibilities about ip-address A: > > (1) A is the client > (2)

Re: [tor-talk] google meek server returns 403 error to Iranian IPs !

2015-05-20 Thread Philipp Winter
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 06:05:11PM +, reza-ask...@riseup.net wrote: > and i think it seams funny that you use google app engine to unblock tor in > countries like Iran > and then google blocks Iranian access to that service. There is also meek-azure and meek-amazon, but they might have the sam

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2015-05-20 Thread Darling Suzy
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Re: [tor-talk] Use of SUNLIGHT for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Thomas . Hluchnik
Bonjour Christian, it was me, not Paul. I am not talking in myth, I am talking in imaginations and I feel free to use dear god in my pictures. Who can say this is right or wrong? You? Me? Dear god himself? I am free and I am painting my imaginations in my way. You may like it or not. About goo

Re: [tor-talk] Use of SUNLIGHT for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Christian Gagneraud
On Wed, 20 May 2015 08:35:00 thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de wrote: > Hello Paul, > > when dear god in heaven decided to construct earth, he implemented the sun > in such way, that it shines over the good and the bad ones. Think about > that. All criminals can do their bad things with help of the da

Re: [tor-talk] Use of TOR for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Juan
On Wed, 20 May 2015 11:38:08 +0200 Casey Callendrello wrote: > Frankly, Tor's twelve-year delay in implementing RFC 3514* is a stain > upon its reputation. > There's no parody like unintentional self-parody. > --Casey > > * Note the published date. > > On 5/20/15 6:20 AM, Chri

Re: [tor-talk] Use of TOR for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Casey Callendrello
Frankly, Tor's twelve-year delay in implementing RFC 3514* is a stain upon its reputation. --Casey * Note the published date. On 5/20/15 6:20 AM, Christian Gagneraud wrote: > > Even if there was some ways, who would then decide what a bad guy is > and what a good one is, what is legal and what's

Re: [tor-talk] Use of TOR for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Random Tor Node Operator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20.05.2015 05:10, Paul A. Crable wrote: > I suppose I sound like a disapproving fussbudget, but I have > trouble understanding how and why we allow TOR to be used this way. > I'm all for free speech, but it's still illegal to falsely yell > "Fire!"

Re: [tor-talk] Use of TOR for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Lara
Henrik Lund Kramshøj: > First, a society with NO CRIME would be a terrible idea. Since this > would require 1984 to be fully implemented, and such a dystopian > society would consist of slaves. It's funny how people reference books without even bothering to read. In 1984 crime is rampant. Not only

Re: [tor-talk] Use of TOR for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Lara
Paul A. Crable: > I have just finished Macdonald's "Future Crime", a recent book listing the > ways in which we are all abused and insulted, and will be further abused Not *we*. You. You felt somewhat like that. And you badly need to start a revolt. Most probably your name was not even mentioned i

Re: [tor-talk] Use of SUNLIGHT for illegal activities

2015-05-20 Thread Thomas . Hluchnik
Hello Paul, when dear god in heaven decided to construct earth, he implemented the sun in such way, that it shines over the good and the bad ones. Think about that. All criminals can do their bad things with help of the daylight. The sunlight is completely neutral, shining for everybody. What