[tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread spencerone
Cypher cypher at cpunk.us: A few months ago, I seem to remember the general advice being not to use Torbirdy. But I see the software was updated only a few months ago so I assume it's in active development. Can I assume Torbirdy is safe to use? Thanks! Cypher Jacob Appelbaum jacob at appelbaum

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 1/27/15, Dave Warren wrote: > On 2015-01-26 03:10, Cypher wrote: >> Also, since the only >> data leaked seems to be the local datetime, I'd think it's not a massive >> concern since my local datetime is shared with a few million other >> people. > > While true, the time*zone* is also mentioned,

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Dave Warren
On 2015-01-26 03:10, Cypher wrote: Also, since the only data leaked seems to be the local datetime, I'd think it's not a massive concern since my local datetime is shared with a few million other people. While true, the time*zone* is also mentioned, and timezones can be a more interesting kett

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 1/26/15, Greg Norcie wrote: > Which is "worse" (assuming someone isn't worried about violence being > directed at them): Using TorBirdy, or plain old SMTP? Using TorBirdy is fine - the two time leaks are very small issues compared to using Thunderbird without TorBirdy. This is especially so fo

Re: [tor-talk] How to make TBB useable as "system Tor", as Tor, Vidalia, pluggable transports system level replacement?

2015-01-26 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Libertas: > On 01/24/2015 11:51 PM, Patrick Schleizer wrote: >> This feature wouldn't make anything worse for regular TBB users. Just >> those who would like to use it as "system Tor" would be free to do so. > > Remember that every TB user that is identifiable because they don't go > with the flow

Re: [tor-talk] How to make TBB useable as "system Tor", as Tor, Vidalia, pluggable transports system level replacement?

2015-01-26 Thread Patrick Schleizer
carlo von lynX: > I like Patrick's initiative. Thanks! :) > Please, make it possible > to have Tor solutions that are more timely than debian > but less intrusive than TAILS (I hate when I can't have > my own unix configuration with all of my preferred apps). Tails has the same issue. They're a

Re: [tor-talk] How to make TBB useable as "system Tor", as Tor, Vidalia, pluggable transports system level replacement?

2015-01-26 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Libertas: > On 01/24/2015 05:43 PM, Aeris wrote: >> Currently, I also need something more like Vidalia or ARM, for system wide >> usage, than TB, very limited for usage outside the web. > > What platform are you on? I'm pretty sure you can just use a daemon, the > original way to use Tor. He can

Re: [tor-talk] How to make TBB useable as "system Tor", as Tor, Vidalia, pluggable transports system level replacement?

2015-01-26 Thread carlo von lynX
I like Patrick's initiative. Please, make it possible to have Tor solutions that are more timely than debian but less intrusive than TAILS (I hate when I can't have my own unix configuration with all of my preferred apps). On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 02:17:29AM -0500, Libertas wrote: > At that point,

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Greg Norcie
Which is "worse" (assuming someone isn't worried about violence being directed at them): Using TorBirdy, or plain old SMTP? -- Greg Norcie (gnor...@indiana.edu) PhD Student, Security Informatics Indiana University On 1/26/15 4:33 AM, Vignesh Prabhu wrote: Hi, Cypher: A few months ago, I seem

Re: [tor-talk] How to make TBB useable as "system Tor", as Tor, Vidalia, pluggable transports system level replacement?

2015-01-26 Thread Libertas
On 01/24/2015 05:43 PM, Aeris wrote: > Currently, I also need something more like Vidalia or ARM, for system wide > usage, than TB, very limited for usage outside the web. What platform are you on? I'm pretty sure you can just use a daemon, the original way to use Tor. signature.asc Descriptio

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Cypher
Vignesh Prabhu: > Hi, > > > Cypher: >> A few months ago, I seem to remember the general advice being not to >> use Torbirdy. But I see the software was updated only a few months ago >> so I assume it's in active development. Can I assume Torbirdy is safe >> to use? > From what I understand there

Re: [tor-talk] Torbirdy

2015-01-26 Thread Vignesh Prabhu
Hi, Cypher: > A few months ago, I seem to remember the general advice being not to > use Torbirdy. But I see the software was updated only a few months ago > so I assume it's in active development. Can I assume Torbirdy is safe > to use? >From what I understand there are two main issues still pen

Re: [tor-talk] surveillance discussion in Finland

2015-01-26 Thread Zenaan Harkness
> "The purpose would be to collect vital information to protect national > security against serious international threats. These could be military > or civilian in nature." > > "Military and civilian authorities in charge of national security should > be granted powers to conduct cross-border intel