Re: [tor-talk] tor browser speed.

2014-10-06 Thread stn
hi sectec, i meant running both home bridge node and a torcloud node offers more divesity than i could offer normally as an individual. if i could have setup tor on a different cloud service as inexpensively and easily i would have.additionally i would have done so within my own country. i

Re: [tor-talk] Stupid hidden services question

2014-10-06 Thread Paul Syverson
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 07:49:38PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > On 10/06/2014 07:26 PM, Virgil Griffith wrote: > > I'm attempting to quantify the proportion of traffic used by hidden > > services. When connecting to hidden services, are exit nodes ever used > > (unless the exit node also has a guard fla

Re: [tor-talk] tor browser speed.

2014-10-06 Thread stn
hi hartmut if you change your mind let me know. i don't mind helping. i guess i'm assuming any bandwidth is good bandwidth for tor so long as i operate the bridge node properly. bell canada supplies the backbone for my "overlay" ISP and i don't much like bell canada either. best steve On O

[tor-talk] Random Hardware That May Be Of Use In Tor

2014-10-06 Thread Ben Healey
Below is the text from a few posts that may be of use in Tor. 1. Hard Drives Program a hard drives way of writing data? Or a software that can do it. Raid hard drives: Can this already be done? Half+ data on different parts of disc? 4x+/- with say 2TB drive with data placed along the disc

[tor-talk] Random Network Upgrades That May Be Of Use In Tor‏

2014-10-06 Thread Ben Healey
Below is the text from a few posts that may be of use in Tor. 1. Networking Hardware Based Increases? Moving receiver? 00 inputs slots? 00 input slots? 01010101010101010---00 ---00

Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor

2014-10-06 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 07:02:06PM -0400, gary...@safe-mail.net wrote: > I'll read some documentation about these methods. Are there recommended > sources? > > > Tor is vulnerable to two general sorts of attacks. I agree with the number two, but I would have picked different attacks. The first i

Re: [tor-talk] tor browser speed.

2014-10-06 Thread stn
hi, i am not very young either. On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:13 AM, Hartmut Haase wrote: > Hi stn, > I suspect I'm to old to understand this kind of stuff, and I certainly do not > want to cooperate with amazon. > -- > Viele Grüße, > Hartmut > > Hungerhilfe: http://www.thehungersite.com > > Ohne Ze

Re: [tor-talk] Stupid hidden services question

2014-10-06 Thread Mirimir
On 10/06/2014 07:26 PM, Virgil Griffith wrote: > I'm attempting to quantify the proportion of traffic used by hidden > services. When connecting to hidden services, are exit nodes ever used > (unless the exit node also has a guard flag)? The nodes in client and hidden-service circuits that are adj

[tor-talk] Stupid hidden services question

2014-10-06 Thread Virgil Griffith
I'm attempting to quantify the proportion of traffic used by hidden services. When connecting to hidden services, are exit nodes ever used (unless the exit node also has a guard flag)? -V -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https:

Re: [tor-talk] tor browser speed

2014-10-06 Thread Ben Healey
Hello, I would think an easy way to get more speed would be have two+ connections? As long as Tor is secure enough for that. As in 2 connections to tor? Not sure how to set that up or program that. Each doing a request for the data? And collecting from each. - Hi, I have upgrad

Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor

2014-10-06 Thread Seth David Schoen
Mirimir writes: > Tor is vulnerable to two general sorts of attacks. One involves the use > of malicious relays in various ways to deanonymize circuits. The other > involves the use of traffic analysis to correlate traffic captured at > edges of the Tor network (to users and the websites that they

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 10/7/14, Mirimir wrote: > On 10/06/2014 04:43 PM, gary...@safe-mail.net wrote: >> The reason people find problems with Tor is because the importance of >> privacy is hidden in a mystery. Most people don't understand the >> reason Tor exist so, how can they judge it? The problem is that it's >>

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 10/7/14, gary...@safe-mail.net wrote: > The reason people find problems with Tor is because the importance of > privacy is hidden in a mystery. Most people don't understand the reason Tor > exist so, how can they judge it? Ack! And unfortunately some people get defensive about privacy - as th

Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor

2014-10-06 Thread Mirimir
On 10/06/2014 05:02 PM, gary...@safe-mail.net wrote: > I'll read some documentation about these methods. Are there recommended > sources? I could come up with a reading list, but don't have time for that now. I recommend browsing the FreeHaven "Selected Papers in Anonymity".[0] You can also searc

Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor

2014-10-06 Thread garyr22
I'll read some documentation about these methods. Are there recommended sources? Thanks Original Message From: Mirimir Apparently from: tor-talk-boun...@lists.torproject.org To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-06 Thread Mirimir
On 10/06/2014 04:43 PM, gary...@safe-mail.net wrote: > The reason people find problems with Tor is because the importance of > privacy is hidden in a mystery. Most people don't understand the > reason Tor exist so, how can they judge it? The problem is that it's > easier to focus on evil than it is

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-06 Thread garyr22
The reason people find problems with Tor is because the importance of privacy is hidden in a mystery. Most people don't understand the reason Tor exist so, how can they judge it? The problem is that it's easier to focus on evil than it is to focus on good. The good Tor offers is much weightier t

Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor

2014-10-06 Thread Mirimir
On 10/06/2014 04:06 PM, gary...@safe-mail.net wrote: > Sure, I understand what you mean. I'm assuming a situation that > doesn't involve legal issues. This would be illegal surveillance, > using average resources with your ISP supporting it for some reason. > I think Tor would be able to handle thi

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-06 Thread Mirimir
On 10/06/2014 03:12 PM, grarpamp wrote: > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM, z9wahqvh wrote: >>> On 2014-10-01 13:20, Sebastian G. wrote: > >> the abuser ... he/she (mostly he) > > Abuse knows no such boundaries, only statistics. > >> The people I work with are writing about Tor, and so far, th

Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor

2014-10-06 Thread garyr22
Sure, I understand what you mean. I'm assuming a situation that doesn't involve legal issues. This would be illegal surveillance, using average resources with your ISP supporting it for some reason. I think Tor would be able to handle this type surveillance if used correctly. I would like to kn

Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

2014-10-06 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM, z9wahqvh wrote: >> On 2014-10-01 13:20, Sebastian G. wrote: > the abuser ... he/she (mostly he) Abuse knows no such boundaries, only statistics. > The people I work with are writing about Tor, and so far, the negatives > keep far outweighing the positives, meani

Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor

2014-10-06 Thread Derric Atzrott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > How difficult would it be for an ISP to monitor your Tor activity from the > modem and determine what sites you visit? > > I only need to know if it would be very hard, impossible, or very possible to > do. If it's possible what technique would the

Re: [tor-talk] isp monitoring tor

2014-10-06 Thread Crypto
On 10/6/2014 1:51 PM, gary...@safe-mail.net wrote: > Hi, > > How difficult would it be for an ISP to monitor your Tor activity from the > modem and determine what sites you visit? > > I only need to know if it would be very hard, impossible, or very possible to > do. If it's possible what te

[tor-talk] isp monitoring tor

2014-10-06 Thread garyr22
Hi, How difficult would it be for an ISP to monitor your Tor activity from the modem and determine what sites you visit? I only need to know if it would be very hard, impossible, or very possible to do. If it's possible what technique would they use? Thanks -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-ta

Re: [tor-talk] orWall 1.0.0 released!

2014-10-06 Thread CJ
On 10/06/2014 05:30 PM, SecTech wrote: > Hi, > > I am using AFWall+, but want to force some apps through TOR. > At orwall.org I read, that OrWall mey interfere with other firewalls. > I saw that in settings I can restrict an app to have internet > connections, force it throug TOR and let them co

Re: [tor-talk] tor browser speed.

2014-10-06 Thread SecTech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 hi stn, In my opinion you aren't right if you think that it's good for diversity when you are hosting your TOR rely on torcloud. Because if many people think so, than on torcloud will be several virtual TOR relys. Physicaly they all are running in o

Re: [tor-talk] orWall 1.0.0 released!

2014-10-06 Thread SecTech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, I am using AFWall+, but want to force some apps through TOR. At orwall.org I read, that OrWall mey interfere with other firewalls. I saw that in settings I can restrict an app to have internet connections, force it throug TOR and let them connec

Re: [tor-talk] tor browser speed.

2014-10-06 Thread I
Hartmut, Tor is one thing we can contribute forever! Torcloud uses Amazon without paying mostly. Setting it up is a bit confusing but there's probably enough help around to get you through it. Robert > Hi stn, > I suspect I'm to old to understand this kind of stuff, and I certainly > do not wa

[tor-talk] Tapping/logging for research [was: media]

2014-10-06 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Lunar wrote: > Derric Atzrott: >> There are some strong ethical questions in logging all traffic from a >> relay, but I can't see any other way to get this sort of data. > > The answer to the ethical question is simple: this is plain wrong. You > don't spy on people

Re: [tor-talk] tor browser speed.

2014-10-06 Thread Hartmut Haase
Hi stn, I suspect I'm to old to understand this kind of stuff, and I certainly do not want to cooperate with amazon. -- Viele Grüße, Hartmut Hungerhilfe: http://www.thehungersite.com Ohne Zensur suchen: http://suche.amnesty-bergedorf.de Googeln ohne Google: https://www.startpage.com/deu Das h

Re: [tor-talk] tor browser speed.

2014-10-06 Thread stn
hi i've been informed running a bridge relay/node requires 24/7 uptime so i'm building a "Box" to run at home dedicated to a tor bridge. it takes more than a week for a node to start to integrate into the network and every time the node goes down i think you start again. but you can run one vi

Re: [tor-talk] another video link. good stark examples of tor anonymity protecting people

2014-10-06 Thread grarpamp
> even better. avoiding youtube is a good idea anyway. For anons saving/distributing youtube videos, beware that every download stream is uniquely tagged. This works good over tor and has support for many sites: http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproje

Re: [tor-talk] tor browser speed.

2014-10-06 Thread Hartmut Haase
Hi Jan, An upgrade from 25meg to 100 meg won't give you improved tor speed because tor cannot handle anywhere near 100mbps. Fastest I usually see is around 1.5 to 2 MB/s. Well within reach of your old 25meg plan. measurments show me I get between 4 and 8 Mbits/s. However, faster speeds are alwa