Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread farinet
> => We do not deal with an American "NSA problem". We deal with a > worldwide surveillance problem! +1 But probably, we should put it this way: Not only, but also ... Politcally, we should aim to break the circuit between the secret services which works following the principal: I do regard yo

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 7/7/14, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > On 7/6/2014 3:39 PM, C B wrote: >> Not as many live here as vacation here. A very large number of the rich >> and powerful visit. And as the first in the nation primary, every >> Presidential candidate spends a lot of time here. Yes it is often hard to >> get laws a

[tor-talk] What are the PPTOR relays?

2014-07-06 Thread Soul Plane
Last night I noticed my relay path was using two PPTOR relays. I don't know much about Tor but from what I've read I thought servers that are related are supposed to identify themselves as such. Just because two servers have similar names does not mean they are related though. Are those servers all

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread C B
It is easier to do things here because it is a small state. There are certainly more rich and famous in say California and New York, but New York could increase its liberty rating by 30% and still be worst in the country. New Hampshire has the largest state legislative body in the country, and p

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/6/2014 3:39 PM, C B wrote: Not as many live here as vacation here. A very large number of the rich and powerful visit. And as the first in the nation primary, every Presidential candidate spends a lot of time here. Yes it is often hard to get laws against things because politicians do not

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread C B
Not as many live here as vacation here. A very large number of the rich and powerful visit. And as the first in the nation primary, every Presidential candidate spends a lot of time here. Yes it is often hard to get laws against things because politicians do not want to get caught. We recently o

Re: [tor-talk] Google Translation accuracy [was: Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court]

2014-07-06 Thread C B
"the rules used by the NSA to figure out who is worthy of being watched. Among the trip wires are interests in Tor, ... and Tails".  http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/06/if-youre-reading-reasoncom-the-nsa-is-pr   -- Christopher Booth From: Joe Btfsplk To: tor-talk

[tor-talk] Bug of torproject's server?

2014-07-06 Thread ttzeqq
When I tried to reach debs from torproject's server, I got this: http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/dists/Torproject/main/binary-amd64/Packages,404 Not Found [IP: 82.195.75.101 80] http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org/dists/Torproject/main/binary-i386/Packages,404 Not Found [IP: 82.195

Re: [tor-talk] Bug of torproject's server?

2014-07-06 Thread AntiTree
Looks like you have "Torproject" instead of your distro name. This should be "lucid" or whatever is the name of your distro. https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 3:36 PM, ttzeqq wrote: > When I tried to reach debs from torproject's server, I got this: > > http:/

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/6/2014 1:27 PM, C B wrote: Obviously, we do need to anonymize and encrypt everything, but also need to adopt a UN resolution protecting the privacy of individuals - no government may intercept any communication without permission or a signed search warrant, which can only be issued on pr

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread C B
Obviously, we do need to anonymize and encrypt everything, but also need to adopt a UN resolution protecting the privacy of individuals - no government may intercept any communication without permission or a signed search warrant, which can only be issued on probable cause, and which must specif

[tor-talk] Google Translation accuracy [was: Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court]

2014-07-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
If the google translation of the document at: http://www.heise.de/ct/heft/2013-20--2248651.html is mostly accurate (if not grammatically correct), this seems an odd statement: "Overall, the probability that your privacy is sacrificed as collateral damage increases by the use of Tor significantly

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-06 Thread C B
Google translation: Jürgen Schmidt Own-goal Dangers of Tor usage in daily life In the current debate one often hears the Council, for more privacy and security, one should use the Tor anonymity service. In fact, however, this is a very dangerous tip. For normal users, it increases de facto the r

Re: [tor-talk] XKeyScore code authenticity - genuine [was: messing with XKeyScore]

2014-07-06 Thread coderman
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:11 PM, coderman wrote: > ... > a regexp rule like: > ''' > extractors: {{ > bridges[] = > /bridge\s([0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}):?([0-9]{2,4}?[^0-9])/; > }} > ''' > is both written by a novice regexp'er, and also took them a bit of > time. more tha

Re: [tor-talk] XKeyScore code authenticity - genuine [was: messing with XKeyScore]

2014-07-06 Thread coderman
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:30 PM, coderman wrote: > ... > the code do not point toward this being a non-fictitious example, i meant "non-functional, fictitious example" of course. and with that, i will leave my further comments to a later, more sober date... airport security, here i come! :P

[tor-talk] XKeyScore code authenticity - genuine [was: messing with XKeyScore]

2014-07-06 Thread coderman
the theme of messing with XKeyScore is amusing[0], but more to the point i was asked to respond to some concerns of authenticity made in a different post: "Validating XKeyScore code" http://blog.erratasec.com/2014/07/validating-xkeyscore-code.html i'm trying to keep this feedback technical, as i

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 07/06/2014 06:17 PM, no.thing_to-h...@cryptopathie.eu wrote: > Correctly, the BND. (1)(2) From 2004 to 2007 an unknown amount of raw > internet and telephone traffic was forwarded directly to the NSA, only > the data from Germans was filtered. (3) This measure was stopped > because our respected

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Thanks. I've not used online translating sites for larger documents or whole websites. For this document, I tried a few other well known translators besides google translate - in an attempt to avoid anything "google." Are there online translators that work for larger documents besides google

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread no . thing_to-hide
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks Cristopher. Same situation here in old Europe. I am German, and our surveillance service BND (= Bundesnachrichtendienst) does exactly the same. In Frankfurt we have got the world's biggest internet-hub, the DE-CIX (Continental Europe, Eastern-Eu

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-06 Thread no . thing_to-hide
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the notice. The German Heise publisher provides good information to IT-related topics, but in German. I tried my Google-translate-link just before, and it worked via Tor, perhaps you could switch the exit? Anyway, here ist the original link:

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Exit Operator convicted in Austrian lower court

2014-07-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
To "no.thing_to-hide" - the link you provided is inaccessible for me. It gives a message: "This page was not retrieved from its original location over a secure connection." Not sure if there's a way around it, or maybe provide the original page & let people translate it themselves? On 7/4/2014

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread Lodewijk andré de la porte
2014-07-06 16:50 GMT+02:00 C B : > All persons, "foreigners" and "Americans" have the same right to privacy, > and it is a crime for the NSA to be collecting Internet traffic from > everyone. Thanks from The Netherlands -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread C B
And yet countless times we were lied to and said no there is no  way to read any of the e-mail messages - only meta data is being collected, there is no "button" to press to see the message. What a lie. There is no button, because everything is being collected. As an American I would like to se

Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are

2014-07-06 Thread no . thing_to-hide
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Quote from SIGINT Raw data: "Im putting all my pride aside just to say that i will miss you dearly and your the only person that i really allowed myself to get close to after losing my ex husband, my dad and my brother.. Im glad it was so easy for you