Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.17-rc is out

2013-09-08 Thread dope457
Chris, actually it is pretty simple. Here is the guide: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en#development Cheers, dope457 On 9.9.2013 6:49, Chris Patti wrote: I realize this is release candidate code, and the answer may well be "if you need to ask this question you shouldn't be runnin

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.17-rc is out

2013-09-08 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 00:49:15 -0400 Chris Patti wrote: > I realize this is release candidate code, and the answer may well be "if > you need to ask this question you shouldn't be running it" but is there any > way to get the latest RC builds installed via the usual apt-get mechanisms > on my Ubuntu

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.17-rc is out

2013-09-08 Thread Chris Patti
I realize this is release candidate code, and the answer may well be "if you need to ask this question you shouldn't be running it" but is there any way to get the latest RC builds installed via the usual apt-get mechanisms on my Ubuntu box without building from source? I want to keep enjoying the

Re: [tor-talk] What if I connect to all nsa Tor nodes?

2013-09-08 Thread Noilson Caio
in https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#EntryGuards say: ... So, what should we do? Suppose the attacker controls, or can observe, *C*relays. Suppose there are *N* relays total. If you select new entry and exit relays each time you use the network, the attacker will be able to correlate all traffi

Re: [tor-talk] [Cryptography] 1024 bit DH still common in Tor network

2013-09-08 Thread Ondrej Mikle
On 09/07/2013 07:10 PM, Benedikt Gollatz wrote: > On 2013-09-07 19:03, Nick Mathewson wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Martin Skjöldebrand >> wrote: >>> On Friday, September 06, 2013 10:28:22 PM Nick Mathewson wrote: >>> Yup. Please upgrade, people. 0.2.4 is looking pretty go

Re: [tor-talk] What if I connect to all nsa Tor nodes?

2013-09-08 Thread Nathan Suchy
Is it possible for me to force my client to connect to my tor exit as the middle node? On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Paul Syverson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 11:47:06AM -0400, Nathan Suchy wrote: > > Would my traffic still be secure? > > > > To do what, and secure against whom and to wha

Re: [tor-talk] Metrics user-count beta related to performance graph?

2013-09-08 Thread cane
On 08.09.2013 18:08, Noilson Caio wrote: > for what reason china has not felt this > impact? China is blocking normal Tor user. You need obfusproxy to circumvent the Great Firewall. May be, the botnet doen't use obfusproxy. cane -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusb

Re: [tor-talk] Metrics user-count beta related to performance graph?

2013-09-08 Thread Noilson Caio
interesting analysis, Sebastian. The top 5 COUNTRIES WITH HIGHEST NUMBER OF INTERNET USERS in the tor metrics: CHINA -https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&start=2013-06-10&end=2013-09-08&country=cn#userstats-relay-country USA - https://metrics.torproject.org/u

[tor-talk] Is my Tor Node getting normal traffic?

2013-09-08 Thread Nathan Suchy
Hey I'm averaging 1.5MBPS Up and Down, 1001 inbound, 628 outbound, and 28 exit connections. Is this normal traffic? I know Tor is under heavy load from the new bot net but this is a huge amount of traffic... -- Nathan Suchy -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe

Re: [tor-talk] What if I connect to all nsa Tor nodes?

2013-09-08 Thread Paul Syverson
On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 11:47:06AM -0400, Nathan Suchy wrote: > Would my traffic still be secure? > To do what, and secure against whom and to what degree? It is reasonable to assume that if NSA is running Tor nodes, then they are probably using good operational security. So against someone brea

Re: [tor-talk] What if I connect to all nsa Tor nodes?

2013-09-08 Thread Nathan Suchy
So if the NSA controls the guard middle then exit could they track me? Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast, long, or perfect response... On Sep 8, 2013 12:56 PM, "harmony" wrote: > Nathan Suchy: > > Would my traffic still be secure? > > > > Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast,

Re: [tor-talk] What if I connect to all nsa Tor nodes?

2013-09-08 Thread harmony
Nathan Suchy: > Would my traffic still be secure? > > Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast, long, or perfect response... > The answer is the same as when you asked 'how private is Tor' - what does 'secure' mean? The attacker would be able to identify your location and destination in all

Re: [tor-talk] What if I connect to all nsa Tor nodes?

2013-09-08 Thread Sebastian G.
08.09.2013 17:47, Nathan Suchy: > Would my traffic still be secure? > Assuming "all nodes" means you hit guard, middle and exit relays that are run by the NSA and the NSA is your thread-model then no. (Guard and exit would be enough to correlate traffic). Sebastian G. -- tor-talk mailing list

Re: [tor-talk] What if I connect to all nsa Tor nodes?

2013-09-08 Thread Leo Unglaub
Hey, On 09/08/2013 05:47 PM, Nathan Suchy wrote: > Would my traffic still be secure? that depends on your traffic. Sending your data unencrypted into the tor network is always a problem. Not just on NSA nodes. You have to distinguish between content encryption, transport encryption and the tor-co

Re: [tor-talk] What if I connect to all nsa Tor nodes?

2013-09-08 Thread Lee
On 9/8/13, Nathan Suchy wrote: > Would my traffic still be secure? On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a ques

[tor-talk] What if I connect to all nsa Tor nodes?

2013-09-08 Thread Nathan Suchy
Would my traffic still be secure? Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast, long, or perfect response... -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] [linux-elitists] Surveillance

2013-09-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from "D. Joe" - Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 15:15:48 + From: "D. Joe" To: linux-eliti...@zgp.org Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] Surveillance User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 06:58:08AM -0700, Don Marti wrote: > begin Greg KH quotation of Sat,

Re: [tor-talk] NIST approved crypto in Tor?

2013-09-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 4:08 PM, anonymous coward > wrote: >> Bruce Schneier recommends *not* to use ECC. It is safe to assume he >> knows what he says. > > I believe Schneier was being careless there. The ECC parameter sets > commonly used

[tor-talk] Metrics user-count beta related to performance graph?

2013-09-08 Thread Sebastian G.
Hi, (Probably only Karsten knows). The new estimated directly connecting users graph (beta) [1] shows a little slow-down in growth, a little spike and a little decline in counted users. The performance graph for 50KiB pieces [2] shows also a decline in download time, which seems to be starting b

Re: [tor-talk] odd notice on tor for GUARD

2013-09-08 Thread Lunar
s: > Sep 07 17:36:05.834 [Notice] Your Guard KOPA > ($2386038C4233F8900768EDC03AB6050AD2A04CF0) is failing more circuits > than usual. Most likely this means the Tor network is overloaded. > Success counts are 174/263. Use counts are 68/69. 185 circuits > completed, 1 were unusable, 10 collapsed, a

Re: [tor-talk] [Cryptography] 1024 bit DH still common in Tor network

2013-09-08 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand
On Saturday, September 07, 2013 07:10:44 PM Benedikt Gollatz wrote: > On 2013-09-07 19:03, Nick Mathewson wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Martin Skjöldebrand > > > > wrote: > >> On Friday, September 06, 2013 10:28:22 PM Nick Mathewson wrote: > >>> Yup. Please upgrade, people. 0.2.4