Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread mirimir
On 09/05/2013 02:08 AM, Gordon Morehouse wrote: > mirimir: > [snip] >> Perhaps these 1.8e+6 (standard stats) to 4.0e+6 (beta stats) new >> Tor clients members of a botnet designed, at least in part, to >> securely and redundantly host hidden services. The demise of >> Freedom Hosting may have stim

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 mirimir: [snip] > Perhaps these 1.8e+6 (standard stats) to 4.0e+6 (beta stats) new > Tor clients members of a botnet designed, at least in part, to > securely and redundantly host hidden services. The demise of > Freedom Hosting may have stimulated s

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: SOPA back

2013-09-04 Thread krishna e bera
How is this directly related to Tor? Perhaps it is more effective to support EFF and tell your non-tech correspondents about SOPA. On 13-09-04 05:22 PM, Nathan Suchy wrote: > Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast, long, or perfect response... > -- Forwarded message -- > Fr

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread mirimir
On 09/04/2013 11:11 PM, Martijn Grooten wrote: > On Wed, 4 Sep 2013, mirimir wrote: >> Also, if this were a botnet, I would expect it to show up in honeypots. >> Wouldn't its bots be easily detected, through searching for Tor >> connections? > > That depends on what the botnet is doing. > > If i

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread Martijn Grooten
On Wed, 4 Sep 2013, mirimir wrote: Also, if this were a botnet, I would expect it to show up in honeypots. Wouldn't its bots be easily detected, through searching for Tor connections? That depends on what the botnet is doing. If it were using Tor to connect to some service on the public Intern

[tor-talk] Fwd: SOPA back

2013-09-04 Thread Nathan Suchy
Sent from my Android so do not expect a fast, long, or perfect response... -- Forwarded message -- From: "Tiffiniy Cheng" Date: Sep 4, 2013 12:11 PM Subject: SOPA back To: Cc: SOPA is back. Well, one of the harshest and most ridiculous parts of it, anyway. The Obama Administrati

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread mirimir
On 09/04/2013 05:33 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > On 09/04/2013 07:14 PM, The Doctor wrote: >> http://cybermashup.com/2013/09/04/dont-run-a-tor-router-and-a-hidden-service-from-the-same-connection/ >> Thoughts from the community? > > https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en > > Las

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 09/04/2013 07:14 PM, The Doctor wrote: > http://cybermashup.com/2013/09/04/dont-run-a-tor-router-and-a-hidden-service-from-the-same-connection/ > Thoughts from the community? https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en Last sentence: "It is generally a better idea to host hidden

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/03/2013 06:06 PM, mirimir wrote: > How would one identify new, and suddenly very popular, hidden > services? I do not know if this link has been posted yet, but this jumped out at me this morning - it's a technique for correlating publically kn

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread Asa Rossoff
>From Gordon Morehouse: > Asa Rossoff: > [snip] >> Whatever the case, I do hope that the larger pattern is not an >> attack on Tor, which would seem to be the major concern. If >> there's more interest and demand, that will ultimately be good for >> the success of Tor, I would think. >> >> Hopefu

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Asa Rossoff: [snip] > Whatever the case, I do hope that the larger pattern is not an > attack on Tor, which would seem to be the major concern. If > there's more interest and demand, that will ultimately be good for > the success of Tor, I would thi

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sebastian G. : > 03.09.2013 17:35, adrelanos: >> New hypothesis: This is an attempt to shut down the Tor network >> once and forever. >> >> [...] > > Beside an existing botnet that now makes use of Tor (rising clients > due to updates) or a new bot

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 mirimir: > It's common for Tor exits to block port 25, I believe. And anyone > capable of building a Tor-based botnet would know that, so I doubt > that they'd be sending email via Tor. You'd think so. And yet, Mediawiki spammers are *still* spamm

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 elrippo: > Am Dienstag, 3. September 2013, 15:35:04 schrieb adrelanos: >> New hypothesis: This is an attempt to shut down the Tor network >> once and forever. >> >> Might this be an attack on the Tor network with the goal to make >> it that slow f

Re: [tor-talk] post

2013-09-04 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
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[tor-talk] post

2013-09-04 Thread D. Collins
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Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread Asa Rossoff
>From mirimir: > On 09/04/2013 06:06 AM, Asa Rossoff wrote: > > SNIP > >> Reviewing known Syrian political and war events occurring, as well as the >> Muslim and Syrian holiday and festival calendars, as well as reviewing Tor >> usage data worldwide, and a sampling of major news stories related t

[tor-talk] Tor using KVM/bridge/iptable filters

2013-09-04 Thread Jimmy Olson
Hi I am following the instructions on this page except it was wrong and the comment here fixes the problem http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-a-tor-middlebox-routing-all-virtualbox-virtual-machine-traffic-over-the-tor-network#comment-34269 I would like a VM to use tor and be able to use fla

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread Asa Rossoff
>From Roger Dingledine: > On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 11:06:54PM -0700, Asa Rossoff wrote: >> Timeline through August 31 > > Hi Asa, > > Thanks for the timeline! Here are a few notes. Hi Roger :) > >> * February, a dramatic, roughly ten-fold decrease in Syrian directly >> connnecting Tor users. > > T

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread Asa Rossoff
>From Eugen Leitl: > On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 10:06:36PM +, mirimir wrote: > >> How would one identify new, and suddenly very popular, hidden services? > > Ask the NSA? ;) ;) Can a relay determine If it is an entry? (assuming it's not a bridge-only relay) If it's not an entry or an exit, I th

[tor-talk] Tor Weekly News — September 4th, 2013

2013-09-04 Thread Lunar
Tor Weekly News September 4th, 2013 Welcome to the tenth issue of Tor Weekly News, the weekly newsletter that cover

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 10:06:36PM +, mirimir wrote: > How would one identify new, and suddenly very popular, hidden services? Ask the NSA? ;) -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread mirimir
On 09/04/2013 05:56 AM, Andreas Krey wrote: > On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 10:36:32 +, Roman Mamedov wrote: > ... >> For example if all of these new users are in fact a single botnet, that's now >> connecting to Tor and then sitting dormant waiting for an order to instantly >> DDoS into the ground any

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread mirimir
On 09/04/2013 06:06 AM, Asa Rossoff wrote: SNIP > Reviewing known Syrian political and war events occurring, as well as the > Muslim and Syrian holiday and festival calendars, as well as reviewing Tor > usage data worldwide, and a sampling of major news stories related to > privacy and encryption

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread mirimir
On 09/04/2013 06:06 AM, Asa Rossoff wrote: >>From mirimir: >> On 09/04/2013 02:09 AM, Collin Anderson wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:39 PM, mirimir wrote: >>> I wonder what it might mean. >>> >>> I don't believe much, Syria's increase was relatively marginal and >>> potentially

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 11:06:54PM -0700, Asa Rossoff wrote: > Timeline through August 31 Hi Asa, Thanks for the timeline! Here are a few notes. > * February, a dramatic, roughly ten-fold decrease in Syrian directly > connnecting Tor users. This was a censoring event I believe. The vanilla Tor

Re: [tor-talk] Exit node stats collection?

2013-09-04 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 07:56:00 +0200 Andreas Krey wrote: > Do you mean "can't" or "don't want to"? The latter; I mean we may indeed want to "discriminate against" (i.e. block) some clients, if the intent of those is to harm the Tor network or any specific hidden services. It is of course possible

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread mirimir
On 09/04/2013 05:45 AM, Andreas Krey wrote: > On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 04:24:04 +, mirimir wrote: > ... >> >> Just so it's absolutely clear: >> >> http://www.myimageshare.com/images/2013/09/03/Syria.png > > Except that the syrian surge you show here started two weeks > before the global surge, and

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-09-04 Thread Asa Rossoff
>From mirimir: > On 09/04/2013 02:09 AM, Collin Anderson wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:39 PM, mirimir wrote: >> >>> I wonder what it might mean. >>> >> >> I don't believe much, Syria's increase was relatively marginal and >> potentially related to normal trends of weekly or holiday use. F