Re: [tor-talk] Contents of PirateBrowser 0.6b

2013-08-30 Thread krishna e bera
On 13-08-31 12:25 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 04:29:18PM +, Matt Pagan wrote: >> # Configured for speed > > Just for the record, the three lines here don't help speed much (or > maybe at all). > >> ExcludeSingleHopRelays 0 > > This first line says it's ok to use rel

Re: [tor-talk] Referers being sent from hidden service websites

2013-08-30 Thread mirimir
On 08/31/2013 03:04 AM, bm-2d8jtri23dyth7whmaldhsvhdfwp91z...@bitmessage.ch wrote: My suggestion is to install https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/smart-referer/ I believe it doesn't break anything major (it has a whitelist feature which is very short and includes di

Re: [tor-talk] Contents of PirateBrowser 0.6b

2013-08-30 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 04:29:18PM +, Matt Pagan wrote: > # Configured for speed Just for the record, the three lines here don't help speed much (or maybe at all). > ExcludeSingleHopRelays 0 This first line says it's ok to use relays that allow you to make one-hop circuits. Roughly speaking,

Re: [tor-talk] Referers being sent from hidden service websites

2013-08-30 Thread BM-2D8jTRi23DYth7WhMALDHSVhdFWP91ZcqA
>>> My suggestion is to install >>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/smart-referer/ I >>> believe it doesn't break anything major (it has a whitelist feature >>> which is very short and includes disqus.com and github.com) and >>> just adds another protection against tracking. This wou

Re: [tor-talk] Referers being sent from hidden service websites

2013-08-30 Thread mirimir
On 08/31/2013 01:50 AM, Gordon Morehouse wrote: > bm-2d8jtri23dyth7whmaldhsvhdfwp91z...@bitmessage.ch: >> I also opened a ticket: >> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/9623 > >> Currently, when browsing on a hidden service website, when you >> click on a clearnet/hidden service link

Re: [tor-talk] Referers being sent from hidden service websites

2013-08-30 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 bm-2d8jtri23dyth7whmaldhsvhdfwp91z...@bitmessage.ch: > I also opened a ticket: > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/9623 > > Currently, when browsing on a hidden service website, when you > click on a clearnet/hidden service link it sen

Re: [tor-talk] ***[SPAM]*** Re: Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread andrew
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 03:55:00PM -0700, bm-2d9whbg2vekslcsgbtplgwdlqypizsq...@bitmessage.ch wrote 2.8K bytes in 0 lines about: : with Navy input, that there are easier ways for nonprofits to hide DoD : funding (like the subsidiary corporation reported on the Tor Project's IRS : 990s, for exampl

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread andrew
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:02:24AM -0700, bm-2d9whbg2vekslcsgbtplgwdlqypizsq...@bitmessage.ch wrote 1.8K bytes in 0 lines about: : Thanks; please see https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/9614. Updated and closed. And the website is pushed live with the new commit. -- Andrew http://t

Re: [tor-talk] security tradeoffs - was Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread mirimir
On 08/30/2013 11:18 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: > At 10:34 PM 8/30/2013 +, you wrote: >> On 08/30/2013 10:06 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: >> >>> At 11:33 AM 8/30/2013 -0400, Paul S. wrote: >> >> SNIP >> See all the research on the issues trade-offs, threats, designs, etc. that Tor Projec

Re: [tor-talk] security tradeoffs - was Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Juan Garofalo
At 10:34 PM 8/30/2013 +, you wrote: >On 08/30/2013 10:06 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: > >> At 11:33 AM 8/30/2013 -0400, Paul S. wrote: > >SNIP > >>> See all the research on the issues trade-offs, threats, designs, >>> etc. that Tor Project Inc. employees, government employees, >>> university and c

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread krugar
Juan Garofalo: > For what it's worth : trying to have a diverse and big user base, and > providing security for all users seems to be impossible. You either provide > relatively good security for a small number of sensitive users, or relatively > lax security for 'general' users. i hav

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread grarpamp
On 8/29/13, Al Billings wrote: > This conversation is a little tired. > > Is there likely to be a meeting of the minds or just a really long thread > that proves nothing to anyone? :-) Tor's a 501 entity, it's books are reasonably open and subject to data correction when pointed out. There will b

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread mirimir
On 08/30/2013 10:06 PM, Juan Garofalo wrote: > At 11:33 AM 8/30/2013 -0400, Paul S. wrote: SNIP >> See all the research on the issues trade-offs, threats, designs, >> etc. that Tor Project Inc. employees, government employees, >> university and corporate researchers, and lots of others have don

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Juan Garofalo
At 11:33 AM 8/30/2013 -0400, Paul S. wrote: >> >> 1. Respect our efforts on this front. We're doing our best with >> >> what we have 2. Provide citations to support your conspiracy >> >> theories of Tor's subversion >> > >> > Tor is funded by the US government. Your own sources. >> >> Indeed, it

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread mirimir
On 08/30/2013 12:41 PM, Ted Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 07:34 -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote: >> By the way, my original point was that if Tor people believe that >> their funding scheme is not going to raise a red flag in the minds of >> 'ordinary people', they are mistaken. > > Until you

Re: [tor-talk] ***[SPAM]*** Re: Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/30/2013 04:29 PM, Ted Smith wrote: > If you truly don't understand that, I don't think anything anyone > says can help you. If you just want to express outrage that people > aren't going to comb through PDFs with a rational, perfectly > logical

Re: [tor-talk] ***[SPAM]*** Re: Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Ted Smith
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 15:02 -0400, The Doctor wrote: > On 08/29/2013 06:55 PM, > bm-2d9whbg2vekslcsgbtplgwdlqypizsq...@bitmessage.ch wrote: > > > Hopefully you can understand why someone might wonder in good > > faith why a third of the Tor Project's 2012 funding appears to be > > disclosed only

Re: [tor-talk] About time to make BitTorrent work over Tor,

2013-08-30 Thread Nathan Suchy
OK. I'll consider i2p. On Aug 30, 2013 3:21 PM, "grarpamp" wrote: > On 8/30/13, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: > >> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Nathan Suchy > >> >> I don't want this for piracy as I have a paid VPN account that is > much > >> >> faster for that if I decide to pirate. I think

Re: [tor-talk] About time to make BitTorrent work over Tor,

2013-08-30 Thread grarpamp
On 8/30/13, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: >> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Nathan Suchy >> >> I don't want this for piracy as I have a paid VPN account that is much >> >> faster for that if I decide to pirate. I think we need BitTorrent >> >> though >> >> to >> >> work on Tor so Tor Users can se

Re: [tor-talk] Contents of PirateBrowser 0.6b

2013-08-30 Thread Andrew F
I hope they are supporting servers on the network.. have they talked about that? On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Matt Pagan wrote: > On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:29:18 + > Matt Pagan wrote: > > > The Pirate Browser is based off Firefox 23.0 > > > > Extensions: > > FoxyProxy Standard 4.

Re: [tor-talk] Contents of PirateBrowser 0.6b

2013-08-30 Thread Matt Pagan
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:29:18 + Matt Pagan wrote: > The Pirate Browser is based off Firefox 23.0 > > Extensions: > FoxyProxy Standard 4.2.2 > > Plugins: > Google Update 1.3.21.153 > Microsoft(R) DRM 9.0.0.4503 > Microsoft(R) DRM 9.0.0.4503 > Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynami

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/29/2013 05:14 PM, Al Billings wrote: > Is there likely to be a meeting of the minds or just a really long > thread that proves nothing to anyone? :-) Doubtful. People believe whatever they want to believe, regardless of the evidence. And now,

Re: [tor-talk] ***[SPAM]*** Re: Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/29/2013 06:55 PM, bm-2d9whbg2vekslcsgbtplgwdlqypizsq...@bitmessage.ch wrote: This is something I do not understand. Primary sources - those PDFs you speak of - are available. Googlable. Readable. Discussable and understandable. Saying tha

Re: [tor-talk] ***[SPAM]*** Re: Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/29/2013 06:55 PM, bm-2d9whbg2vekslcsgbtplgwdlqypizsq...@bitmessage.ch wrote: > Hopefully you can understand why someone might wonder in good > faith why a third of the Tor Project's 2012 funding appears to be > disclosed only in PDFs that very

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/30/2013 06:19 AM, mick wrote: > unhelpful. When the abuse is aimed at refuting what could be seen > as conspiracy theory, I think you may be in danger of adding fuel. The problem with conspiracy theories is that any response at all, or nor resp

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread Zach Silver | Silver Tech
Thanks for sharing, Collin. Those graphs are very interesting. What the hell is going on??? -Original Message- From: tor-talk [mailto:tor-talk-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Collin Anderson Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 11:37 AM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re

Re: [tor-talk] Contents of PirateBrowser 0.6b

2013-08-30 Thread Ted Smith
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 16:29 +, Matt Pagan wrote: > http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/ > http://omcwtrnyrzlwzv22.onion/ These hidden services point to the pirate bay and eztv, for anyone curious (I was). -- Sent from Ubuntu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread Collin Anderson
Hi Mike, On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Mike Perry wrote: > Dude I love math and whatnot. Maybe science too, but this isn't exactly > a controlled experiment. So whatnot it is, then! (Also plus one to you > Collin, for being awesome). > > Can someone with more free time than me try to investiga

[tor-talk] Contents of PirateBrowser 0.6b

2013-08-30 Thread Matt Pagan
Since the Priate Browser has only been released for Windows so far, some people who don't use Windows have been wondering what's in it. I put a copy of Windows XP on a virtual machine to examine the contents of the Pirate Browser package. I used the microsoft utility FCIV to compare the md5 and s

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Paul Syverson
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 04:38:21PM +0200, Sebastian G. wrote: > 30.08.2013 Juan Garofalo: > > At 02:16 AM 8/30/2013 -0700, you wrote: > >> Juan Garofalo: > >>> At 02:14 PM 8/29/2013 -0700, you wrote: [snip] > >> > >> 1. Respect our efforts on this front. We're doing our best with > >> what we hav

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Low-Key²
Original Message - From: Juan Garofalo   > Seriously what? You don't understand that baseless name calling shows that > you don't have a leg to stand on? No more games, please.  As has been pointed out, the source code is public. Make your case if you have one.  Yet, if this is go

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread Sebastian G.
30.08.2013 10:49, Mike Perry: > Georg Koppen: >> On 30.08.2013 09:14, Mike Perry wrote: >>> 2. If this was Pirate Browser: >> >> They are using FoxyProxy, right? Let's assume the PirateBrowser folks >> did not deactivate update checks. Then, there should be a similar spike >> visible on AMO where

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 02:16:06 -0700 Mike Perry wrote: > 3. Find better meds > 4. Go fuck off Personal attacks like this are unacceptable. Let's keep it mature and civil, even in the face of immaturity and incivility on other sides. -- Andrew http://tpo.is/contact pgp 0x6B4D6475 -- tor-talk mail

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread lucia
> /"Error 503 : Service Temporarily Unavailable"/ > I guess this one got hit too? ;) Probably yes. But if you weren't visiting with Tor, there is a good chance you would not see the 503 message. Loads fine for me. ;) Spambotsecurity.com is Zaphod's site. He write ZBBlock which blocks any connect

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Sebastian G.
30.08.2013 Juan Garofalo: > At 02:16 AM 8/30/2013 -0700, you wrote: >> Juan Garofalo: >>> At 02:14 PM 8/29/2013 -0700, you wrote: This conversation is a little tired. The tinfoil hats are going to see any funding of Tor by the US government as evidence that Tor is really a fron

Re: [tor-talk] Traffic Spike and who really backs Tor

2013-08-30 Thread Zach Silver | Silver Tech
Thanks, Paul. -Original Message- From: tor-talk [mailto:tor-talk-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Paul Staroch Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 8:43 AM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Traffic Spike and who really backs Tor Am 2013-08-30 15:18, schrieb Zac

Re: [tor-talk] Traffic Spike and who really backs Tor

2013-08-30 Thread Paul Staroch
Am 2013-08-30 15:18, schrieb Zach Silver | Silver Tech: > Is it really an Non-Government Organization (NGO) backing Tor? Why are they > not named?! This is discussed in a recent thread on this mailing list [1]. > Any idea what's going on with the overnight traffic spike? There is a thread for

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread Martijn Grooten
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013, lucia wrote: WRT: "May be a botnet is using Tor?" Read the thread at http://www.spambotsecurity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2095 The title is "Anyone else get hit by TOR-cloaked(?) botnet?" Bot with Tor addresses hitting sites and attempting SQL injection have been seen

[tor-talk] Traffic Spike and who really backs Tor

2013-08-30 Thread Zach Silver | Silver Tech
https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en is on reddit/technology... "Tor Project is mostly funded by the Department of Defense". Is it really an Non-Government Organization (NGO) backing Tor? Why are they not named?! Any idea what's going on with the overnight traffic spike? I am wo

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Ted Smith
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 07:34 -0300, Juan Garofalo wrote: > By the way, my original point was that if Tor people believe that > their funding scheme is not going to raise a red flag in the minds of > 'ordinary people', they are mistaken. Until you can find a better funding source in the US than the

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread Nima Red Team
> Read the thread at > http://www.spambotsecurity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2095 The title > is > "Anyone else get hit by TOR-cloaked(?) botnet?" > > Bot with Tor addresses hitting sites and attempting SQL injection have > been seen. I don't know how widespread it is. > Lucia /"Error 503 : S

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread lucia
WRT: "May be a botnet is using Tor?" Read the thread at http://www.spambotsecurity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2095 The title is "Anyone else get hit by TOR-cloaked(?) botnet?" Bot with Tor addresses hitting sites and attempting SQL injection have been seen. I don't know how widespread it is.

Re: [tor-talk] Iranian users cannot download Orbot from Google play store

2013-08-30 Thread Nathan Freitas
Sherief Alaa wrote: >Hello, > >Over the past couple of days Iranian users have been complaining about >not >being able to download Orbot from Google's play store (error 403). > >To solve the problem we at help desk send the official direct download >link >that GP provides[0] but it's only a matt

Re: [tor-talk] How to test leaks on OSX?

2013-08-30 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
Can i just use the netstat? How to tell if a connection is not Tor? -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:02 PM, mirimir wrote: > On 08/29/2013 02:53 PM, Lodewijk andré de la porte wrote: > >> A firewall might well help you. Otherwise console output of made >> connections

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Juan Garofalo
At 11:19 AM 8/30/2013 +0100, you wrote: >On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 02:16:06 -0700 >Mike Perry allegedly wrote: >> >> Anyway, I would ask that you attempt at least one of the following: >> >> 1. Respect our efforts on this front. We're doing our best with what >> we have >> 2. Provide citations to su

[tor-talk] Iranian users cannot download Orbot from Google play store

2013-08-30 Thread Sherief Alaa
Hello, Over the past couple of days Iranian users have been complaining about not being able to download Orbot from Google's play store (error 403). To solve the problem we at help desk send the official direct download link that GP provides[0] but it's only a matter of time before that get block

Re: [tor-talk] Iranian users cannot download Orbot from Google play store

2013-08-30 Thread Crypto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/30/2013 5:29 AM, Sherief Alaa wrote: > Hello, > > Over the past couple of days Iranian users have been complaining > about not being able to download Orbot from Google's play store > (error 403). > > To solve the problem we at help desk send the

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread mick
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 02:16:06 -0700 Mike Perry allegedly wrote: > > Anyway, I would ask that you attempt at least one of the following: > > 1. Respect our efforts on this front. We're doing our best with what > we have > 2. Provide citations to support your conspiracy theories of Tor's subversi

[tor-talk] Any issues using Bitmessage over Tor?

2013-08-30 Thread Anthony Papillion
A friend of mine connected his Bitmessage client to Tor and was warned that it might be using a protocol that makes unsafe requests. Are there any problems using Tor with Bitmessage? Is it possible since Bitmessage is peer to peer? Thanks, Anthony -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproj

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Juan Garofalo
At 02:16 AM 8/30/2013 -0700, you wrote: >Juan Garofalo: >> At 02:14 PM 8/29/2013 -0700, you wrote: >> >This conversation is a little tired. >> > >> >The tinfoil hats are going to see any funding of Tor by the US government >> >as evidence that Tor is really a front for it and/or pwned by it. >> >

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Mike Perry
Juan Garofalo: > At 02:14 PM 8/29/2013 -0700, you wrote: > >This conversation is a little tired. > > > >The tinfoil hats are going to see any funding of Tor by the US government as > >evidence that Tor is really a front for it and/or pwned by it. > > So if facts can't be denied, and basic

Re: [tor-talk] (RUS) Нужен ответ на 1 вопрос по поводу домена.

2013-08-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 01:03:49PM +0400, mamoeb mamoeb wrote: > > > > Четверг, 29 августа 2013, 23:21 UTC от mirimir : > >On 08/29/2013 10:04 PM, mamoeb mamoeb wrote: > > > >> Поднял onion сайт получил доменное имя onion. Вопрос как его изменить? > >> вместо рандомных знаков в начале добавить

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Alec Muffett
> So if facts can't be denied, and basic principles of politics and economic 'incentives' can't be denied, the best course of action is to call any critics "tin foil hats". So you're a critic? Ok, Mr Critic: the source code is public. The protocol is public. The architecture is public. Th

Re: [tor-talk] (RUS) Нужен ответ на 1 вопрос по поводу домена.

2013-08-30 Thread mamoeb mamoeb
Четверг, 29 августа 2013, 23:21 UTC от mirimir : >On 08/29/2013 10:04 PM, mamoeb mamoeb wrote: > >> Поднял onion сайт получил доменное имя onion. Вопрос как его изменить? >> вместо рандомных знаков в начале добавить названия своего сайта как? >> >> Пример получил имя jfdfjsiewdf.onion как его

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread Karsten N.
On 27.08.2013 09:08, Roger Dingledine wrote: > The number of Tor clients running appears to have doubled since August 19: > There's a slight increase (worsening) in the performance measurements: > but it's hard to say if that's a real difference. May be a botnet is using Tor? Karsten N. -- tor-

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread Mike Perry
Georg Koppen: > On 30.08.2013 09:14, Mike Perry wrote: > > 2. If this was Pirate Browser: > > They are using FoxyProxy, right? Let's assume the PirateBrowser folks > did not deactivate update checks. Then, there should be a similar spike > visible on AMO where FoxyProxy is hosted. But there is no

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Financial Transparency

2013-08-30 Thread Juan Garofalo
At 02:14 PM 8/29/2013 -0700, you wrote: >This conversation is a little tired. > >The tinfoil hats are going to see any funding of Tor by the US government as >evidence that Tor is really a front for it and/or pwned by it. So if facts can't be denied, and basic principles of politics and

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread Georg Koppen
On 30.08.2013 09:14, Mike Perry wrote: > 2. If this was Pirate Browser: They are using FoxyProxy, right? Let's assume the PirateBrowser folks did not deactivate update checks. Then, there should be a similar spike visible on AMO where FoxyProxy is hosted. But there is no such spike in the FoxyPro

Re: [tor-talk] Many more Tor users in the past week?

2013-08-30 Thread Mike Perry
Collin Anderson: > (or it's just a botnet, obviously.) > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Collin Anderson > > Firstly congratulations Tor; secondly this seems pretty solvable with math > > and what not. Dude I love math and whatnot. Maybe science too, but this isn't exactly a controlled exp