Re: [tor-talk] Anonymous Blogging with Tor and Wordpress?

2013-04-29 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, Apart from what has been replied before on this list, you should consider using TAILS, the Tor live-CD, exclusively when you access your blog. It is too easy to confuse browsers or do some other stupid mistake, and booting into a completely different system helps a lot, especially psychologica

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Griffin Boyce
David Vorick wrote: > Part of the problem is that Tor is really inconvenient to use. The only > people who hang out on Tor are criminals because generally, it's only worth > the trouble if you are a criminal. > Well, I guess I'll just tell all of the public health activists I know to just pack u

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread grarpamp
> What about a simpler solution? > Can you stamp them out? What, like genocide? Various parts of the world tried that at various times in history, it doesn't really work. Neither did the wars on drugs, terrorism, guns, copyright or any other attempt in history to stamp whatever it was they tried t

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymous Blogging with Tor and Wordpress?

2013-04-29 Thread Griffin Boyce
Jennifer Parsons wrote: > Okay, so on to my question. I've been thinking about writing a hosted > Wordpress blog anonymously via Tor, but I can't find any up to date > information on the topic > I would check out PageKite, though it really depends on if you want to run a hidden service or a t

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread mirimir
On 04/29/2013 11:38 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > On 4/29/2013 4:18 PM, mirimir wrote: >> On 04/29/2013 08:29 PM, Chris Patti wrote: >> >>> OK, you're right. That's a bad idea - what about clearly labeling >>> the pedo >>> sites as pedo sites? >> Maybe Tor-optimized-Firefox needs a default "safe brows

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/29/2013 4:18 PM, mirimir wrote: On 04/29/2013 08:29 PM, Chris Patti wrote: OK, you're right. That's a bad idea - what about clearly labeling the pedo sites as pedo sites? Maybe Tor-optimized-Firefox needs a default "safe browsing" plugin. Also, maybe at least some pedo, etc .onion sites

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymous Blogging with Tor and Wordpress?

2013-04-29 Thread Geoff Down
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013, at 11:54 PM, adrelanos wrote: > Hi Jennifer! > > Jennifer Parsons: > > The source that I see splashed everywhere is > > Ethan Zuckerman's guide, but that hasn't been updated since > > 2009--practically 10,000 years ago in internet time. The guide is here: > > http://advoca

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/29/2013 3:29 PM, Chris Patti wrote: OK, you're right. That's a bad idea - what about clearly labeling the pedo sites as pedo sites? And once again, please note I am in no way suggesting that *the Tor project* undertake this effort, but that people who operate the hidden directories might c

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymous Blogging with Tor and Wordpress?

2013-04-29 Thread adrelanos
Hi Jennifer! Jennifer Parsons: > The source that I see splashed everywhere is > Ethan Zuckerman's guide, but that hasn't been updated since > 2009--practically 10,000 years ago in internet time. The guide is here: > http://advocacy.globalvoicesonline.org/projects/guide/ Agreed. >- Is the in

[tor-talk] Anonymous Blogging with Tor and Wordpress?

2013-04-29 Thread Jennifer Parsons
Hello, everyone. :) First of all, I just want to give a huge thanks to everyone who's involved with Tor. Ever since I started using it, I have felt a refreshing sense of freedom and empowerment that I did not at all anticipate when I downloaded the Tor Browser. I am now speaking up boldly on is

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread mirimir
On 04/29/2013 08:29 PM, Chris Patti wrote: > OK, you're right. That's a bad idea - what about clearly labeling the pedo > sites as pedo sites? Maybe Tor-optimized-Firefox needs a default "safe browsing" plugin. Also, maybe at least some pedo, etc .onion sites would voluntarily label themselves.

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Juan Garofalo
> >I recognize that free speech means free speech for everyone, even those >with views that we find objectionable, but there's nothing to stop the >community from turning a cold shoulder to these people who see informed >consent as being an optional or academic concept. Public relations,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Guido Witmond
On 04/29/2013 10:19 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Chris, I agree in principal - about all sorts of illegal activity. But how could that be done w/o *someone* overseeing all the internet & deciding what should / shouldn't be accessible, becoming judge & jury? I don't know a good solution to this old ques

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
OK, you're right. That's a bad idea - what about clearly labeling the pedo sites as pedo sites? And once again, please note I am in no way suggesting that *the Tor project* undertake this effort, but that people who operate the hidden directories might consider making it a little easier for new f

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
For what it's worth, OnionBrowser is open sourced, it is for Apple platforms: https://github.com/mtigas/iOS-OnionBrowser My point was that using Tor need not be inconvenient at all. I agree that there's a need for a hidden services directory, but I gather from what I've read that doing this isn'

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread h0ost
Calls such as these, to begin systematic attempts at flagging directories and removing links, are nothing but thinly disguised attempts at imposing censorship and control on the Tor network. Let's be honest and call it what it is. On 04/29/2013 04:03 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Mon, Apr 29,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/29/2013 12:32 PM, Chris Patti wrote: Tor has a rather severe reputation problem at the moment. Given the recent revelations around malware on the network, and the pervasiveness of pedophilia, I think we should consider a course of action to help boost the network's PR. For one - while nobo

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Guido Witmond
On 04/29/2013 09:30 PM, Chris Patti wrote: Can you stamp them out? No, but can you make it VERY unlikely / difficult to simply stumble upon them while investigating Tor-space? Yes you can! No you can't stamp out the problem, it's a human/brain thing. And taking down the images doesn't solve t

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 03:30:37PM -0400, Chris Patti wrote: > What about simply scouring all the directories, removing links to the pedo > sites? Please do! That said, you're already falling into a trap when you say "all the directories". I know the person who ran "the hidden wiki" -- he shut it

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
Agreed, but understand - I'm not suggesting that *the Tor project* itself cull this content, merely that directory / wiki operators make a concerted effort to at least clearly label the pedo dens so they can be easily avoided by those of us who have a real issue with them. -Chris On Mon, Apr 29,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
Can't agree with this. You can get OnionBrowser for pretty much any platform. Download and run, end of story. I grabbed it for my iPad and within a minute I was up and running. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:46 PM, David Vorick wrote: > Part of the problem is that Tor is really inconvenient to us

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Anthony Papillion
On 04/29/2013 02:30 PM, Chris Patti wrote: > > Directly pursuant to this, and to my original note: What about a simpler > solution? > > What about simply scouring all the directories, removing links to the pedo > sites? This would be a public relations nightmare for the project and a very bad id

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread David Vorick
Part of the problem is that Tor is really inconvenient to use. The only people who hang out on Tor are criminals because generally, it's only worth the trouble if you are a criminal. Bitcoin faced the same problem. Bitcoin was used primarily by criminals until it became more interesting for other

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 08:51:32PM +0200, Guido Witmond wrote: > > However, given the nature of onion sites, I don't know how the police > > investigators could track and take down the source without defeating the > > anonymity of Tor. >

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 08:51:32PM +0200, Guido Witmond wrote: > However, given the nature of onion sites, I don't know how the police > investigators could track and take down the source without defeating the > anonymity of Tor. https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2011-September/02119

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 01:32:59PM -0400, Chris Patti wrote: > As a newcomer to Tor, as I explored the various onions out there, I felt as > if practically everywhere I turned there were links taking me to pedo > sites, IRC channels etc. Hi Chris, I agree with you. Part of what we have done a poo

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Guido Witmond
On 04/29/2013 07:32 PM, Chris Patti wrote: Tor has a rather severe reputation problem at the moment. Given the recent revelations around malware on the network, and the pervasiveness of pedophilia, I think we should consider a course of action to help boost the network's PR. For one - while nob

[tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Chris Patti
Tor has a rather severe reputation problem at the moment. Given the recent revelations around malware on the network, and the pervasiveness of pedophilia, I think we should consider a course of action to help boost the network's PR. For one - while nobody is interested in acting as the police and

Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)

2013-04-29 Thread Andrew Lewman
This guy is annoying. He's been emailing any address at Tor he can find. I'm not responding to him any more. Basically, he's asking for money to keep our wiki clean. He's implied in the past that if we don't pay him, we'll be spammed ruthlessly. On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:13:14 +0400 torwiki wrote: