On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:02:02 +, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
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>
> Another interesting problem is that the Raspberry Pi doesn't have a RTC. :(
Tor does a time check against other nodes. Can't we use that to obtain
the time as well?
I wouldn't mind running tor as root on a raspi dedicated as a to
22.07.2012, 18:17, "adrelanos" :
> Hansen Jay:
>
>> Can anyone make a layperson explanation of this issue? If I run an
>> application through torsocks, who exactly has to initiate the ipv6
>> traffic to cause the problem? I don't think I have any apps that
>> use ipv6??
>
> Just added to the
Because Tails doesn't use stream isolation and uses tails_htp over Tor,
the exit node can see "Hello, this is a Tails user!". (Who else uses
tails_htp over Tor.) The problem persists until the exit node is changed.
Proposed solution: use stream isolation, run tails_htp/wget over a
different SocksP
Hansen Jay:
> Can anyone make a layperson explanation of this issue? If I run an
> application through torsocks, who exactly has to initiate the ipv6
> traffic to cause the problem? I don't think I have any apps that
> use ipv6??
Just added to the wiki.
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wi
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:08 AM, adrelanos wrote:
> - usewithtor features get moved to torsocks
"usewithtor" has no features — it just invokes "torsocks", after
possibly interfering with user's TORSOCKS_CONF_FILE setting. The
warning message that it prints for missing /etc/torsocks.conf is
printe
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Hansen Jay wrote:
> Sorry, correction - man 8 torsocks (for the library not the script) mentions
> TORSOCKS_CONFFFILE, but all the other manpages mention TORSOCKS_CONF_FILE
# strings /usr/lib/torsocks/libtorsocks.so | grep CONF
TORSOCKS_CONF_FILE
Note — in my pr
Maxim Kammerer:
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:58 AM, adrelanos
> wrote:
>> I read somewhere in latest torify source that it's only held for
>> compatibility reasons.
>
> Seems so:
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/blob/HEAD:/contrib/torify.in
> “Now, it's just a backwards compatible shim
22.07.2012, 16:27, "Hansen Jay" :
> 22.07.2012, 15:53, "grarpamp" :
>
>> Torsocks docs are woefully in need of work to match the code. And you may
>> find
>> yourself better off if you ignore the scripts and write your own. All
>> you really need is:
>>
>> LD_PRELOAD=/.../libtorsocks.so TORS
22.07.2012, 15:53, "grarpamp" :
> Torsocks docs are woefully in need of work to match the code. And you may find
> yourself better off if you ignore the scripts and write your own. All
> you really need is:
>
> LD_PRELOAD=/.../libtorsocks.so TORSOCKS_CONF_FILE=/.../torsocks.conf
> TORSOCKS_DEBUG=
Torsocks docs are woefully in need of work to match the code. And you may find
yourself better off if you ignore the scripts and write your own. All
you really need is:
LD_PRELOAD=/.../libtorsocks.so TORSOCKS_CONF_FILE=/.../torsocks.conf
TORSOCKS_DEBUG=1 "$@"
local = 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0
local = 12
> usewithtor is a script/wrapper and easier to use.
>
> torsocks is the actual binary and has different features (see man torsocks).
No, torsocks also has a wrapper script by the same name. And if the manpage
for torsocks (the wrapper) is correct, it makes usewithtor redundant. I have no
idea
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:58 AM, adrelanos wrote:
> I read somewhere in latest torify source that it's only held for
> compatibility reasons.
Seems so:
https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git/blob/HEAD:/contrib/torify.in
“Now, it's just a backwards compatible shim around torsocks with
reasonable
Maxim Kammerer:
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:34 PM, adrelanos
> wrote:
>> Just use usewithtor.
>
> Why? I was under impression that "torify" is still the generic
> wrapper.
I read somewhere in latest torify source that it's only held for
compatibility reasons.
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On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:34 PM, adrelanos wrote:
> Just use usewithtor.
Why? I was under impression that "torify" is still the generic wrapper.
Anyway, let's summarize briefly, since proliferation of related
scripts is indeed confusing:
packages:
+ tsocks: LD_PRELOAD=libtsocks.so hack for t
Hansen Jay:
>> Torify and tsocks are outdated. Don't bother with it.
>
> OK, but why does Tor deliver torify if that's the case?
It's only kept for compatibility reasons.
>>> However, the manpage for usewithtor says "usewithtor runs torsocks(1)
>>> with the default configuration file, l
> Please consider updating those pages (wiki can be edited by everyone)
> and submitting trac tickets against the website to fix the mess.
As soon as I figure it out myself! :)
> Torify and tsocks are outdated. Don't bother with it.
OK, but why does Tor deliver torify if that's the case?
>> Ho
hello,
if i have built some popular onion site and it reaches max of server what
methods can be used to scale it? is it different than non-onion site?
does anyone build hidden service site that is so popular yet? has some guide
been written?
--
Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu
jha...@yandex.com:
> I want to understand the best torification tool to use, but it's really hard
> to learn about what each tool is and how it is different and who is
> responsible for which tool. Various places on torproject.org site talk about
> torify, usewithtor, torsocks, etc.
Please con
I want to understand the best torification tool to use, but it's really hard to
learn about what each tool is and how it is different and who is responsible
for which tool. Various places on torproject.org site talk about torify,
usewithtor, torsocks, etc.
First, this page says torsocks is ins
There are RTC shields in the making.
google images for "RTC raspberry"
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
> intrigeri:
>> Hi,
>>
>> || ΣΖΟ || wrote (21 Jul 2012 18:28:14 GMT) :
>>> PiTails?
>>
>> On the Tails side, we have decided to wait a bit for the dust to
>> settle,
Sebastian G. :
> Jacob Appelbaum:
>> Ethan Lee Vita:
>>> Pop servers (I don't use imap) don't connect while using TorBirdy, nor
>>> do SMTP servers. It just sticks at 'Connecting to
>>> pop.someserver.org...', not even asking for user password. SMTP comes up
>>> with Thunderbird didn't connect to S
intrigeri:
> Hi,
>
> || ΣΖΟ || wrote (21 Jul 2012 18:28:14 GMT) :
>> PiTails?
>
> On the Tails side, we have decided to wait a bit for the dust to
> settle, and for our upstreams (Linux, Debian, Debian Live) to support
> embedded and ARM platforms better, before we even try supporting this
> kind
Katya Titov:
>
> Seconded! Thanks to all the devs!
>
> Understanding is the key to security, not convenience. That being said,
> TorBirdy is both convenient and great. I'm not sure that's it's ready
> for primetime yet, but I do try to test and feed back (using another
> nym ...) and definitely s
Tim Wilde:
> On 7/18/2012 6:19 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>> The gpg manpage says the following:
>
>> Do not put the recipient key IDs into encrypted messages. This
>> helps to hide the receivers of the message and is a limited
>> countermeasure against traffic analysis. ([Using a little
adrelanos:
> Jacob Appelbaum:
>> So does that mean you do or do not like DNSSEC? :)
>
> Can't say, I didn't dig into that deep enough.
In a sense, we can compare the root ('.') to a single CA that can
further delegate to other CAs such as '.se' and so on.
>
>> I'd like to see a normal ntp clien
Thanks a lot, Yeah document regarding this issue and also encrypting and
signing the message by ThunderMail is necessary .
Best
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:47 AM, tagnaq wrote:
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> > Sorry, may be a newbie question, But while using ThunderBird
Hi,
|| ΣΖΟ || wrote (21 Jul 2012 18:28:14 GMT) :
> PiTails?
On the Tails side, we have decided to wait a bit for the dust to
settle, and for our upstreams (Linux, Debian, Debian Live) to support
embedded and ARM platforms better, before we even try supporting this
kind of hardware.
Our efforts (
Hi,
Roger Dingledine wrote (21 Jul 2012 15:54:22 GMT) :
> the Tails people set up a forum, and I hear they hate it so much
> that at this point they wish they had nothing rather than the one
> they have.
Well, not exactly, else we would just shut it down immediately :)
But yeah, our current foru
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> Sorry, may be a newbie question, But while using ThunderBird with
> TorBirdy, must another instance of Tor be running?, for example BBT
> or Vidalia? Just dled TorBirdy 0.0.10.xpi but i should run BBT
> before to make TorBirdy work.does TorBirdy no
Sorry, may be a newbie question,
But while using ThunderBird with TorBirdy, must another instance of TOR be
running?, for example BBT or Vidalia?
Just dled TorBirdy 0.0.10.xpi but i should run BBT before to make TorBirdy
work.does TorBirdy not work lonely?
Best,
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> Previously, I had been launching start-tor-browser from the
> extracted archive and then attempting to get messages. However,
> when you asked me to check connections in Vidalia, I went to the
> app directory and opened it directly (I usually hide
> they should create an official clear net discussion f0rum.
>
> "The idea is to share more with the community and give people a chance to
> ask questions directly of the people doing the work."
>
> that is the purpose of a F0RUM, not another MAILING LIST used by the 1%.
> The 1% of what set of pe
> Every major data harvester and private
> data seller does that as they really really need you to confirm they
> are tracking the right person. Go to other, nicer, services. Also
> free. But with less mbox space. And you'll find out that's not a
> problem.
Yes, Yandex and Fastmail are both good i
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