Re: [tor-talk] bridge up & down times

2012-02-12 Thread Sebastian Hahn
On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:38 PM, eliaz wrote: > I have a few novice questions about a normal bridge I've set up. I've > not found answers in the documentation. > > * Opposite the one country that's so far listed in the usage summary, > the #Client column shows "1-8". What does this mean exactly? 1

Re: [tor-talk] some clarifications on hidden services ...

2012-02-12 Thread Bernd
2012/2/13 John Case : >  These are the "entry guards" that the doc refers to later, right ? No, these are called "Introduction points", entry guards are something else. > - If all of the random relays that I announce to initially go away, will I > see that in logs/errors/messages, or be alerted

Re: [tor-talk] Quick and Dirty How To Guide for Iran

2012-02-12 Thread Low-Key²
--- On Sun, 2/12/12, pro...@tormail.net wrote: > Can you leave please a copy in the > wiki? In case the pastbin gets deleted, > it makes sense to have a copy. > > And if updates are needed, it's easier to cooperate. Good idea. I added it to the wiki via the "cypherpunks" account so anyone can

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/12/2012 6:53 PM, Ted Smith wrote: The problem I see in Tor adopting AdBlock as a default-installed plugin is that it allows the controller of that list to censor websites without oversight. I think if AdBlock is installed by default in the Tor Browser Bundle, the list configured should be

[tor-talk] some clarifications on hidden services ...

2012-02-12 Thread John Case
I've read through /docs/hidden-services.html.en a few times over and I need some points clarified, if someone would be so kind ... - Can I choose more than 3 random relays to announce my hidden service to ? These are the "entry guards" that the doc refers to later, right ? - If all of the

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:53:17 -0800 (PST) Brian Franklin wrote: > 1. Privacy. Fairly obvious why we do this. Stopping ads and ad > tracking is consistent with the privacy mission of the Tor Project. In general, I'm going to defer to Mike Perry, as he's our expert here. Stopping ads is not the goal

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Ted Smith
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 07:53 -0800, Brian Franklin wrote: > The Adblock should be configured to work and not need setup. Select a > few good lists and have them automatically in. This will save users > the time of doing it themselves and help people who don't know how. For on this list who are not

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread AK
I think Ghostery + Adblock Plus + No Script is overkill. Choose one. They all pretty much do the same thing. Block nasty javascript. No Script seems appropriate for the Tor Browser due to it's default aggressive stance on any javascript. But just curious, which part of Ghostery is closed source, b

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread x
Agreed about the dangers of add-ons and info here https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/ "The Design and Implementation of the Tor Browser [DRAFT]" not sure if maintaining ghostery or adblock via Tor is worth the trouble as they might/might not improve the user experience but the

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:31:28 - pro...@tormail.net wrote: > Same goes for Adblock Plus. If it's safe, it should come preinstalled > with TBB. Ads over Tor make no sense, you can not buy those things > anonymously and ads and tracking waste Tor's and users bandwidth. Actually, you can buy stuff

Re: [tor-talk] Trying to build the TOR Obsfproxy

2012-02-12 Thread Robert Ransom
On 2012-02-12, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: > > Howdy? I just started in trying to build this and am > getting errors that indicate problems with SSL: > > $ git clone https://git.torproject.org/obfsproxy.git > Cloning into obfsproxy... > error: SSL certificate problem, verify that the CA cert

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/12/2012 3:00 PM, Patrick Mézard wrote: For me, a more basic question is whether installing extensions from a fresh Tor installed is (sufficiently) safe. I do not know the details of the process but it probably involves some HTTPS connections to addons.mozilla.org. If the exit node can perf

[tor-talk] Quick and Dirty How To Guide for Iran

2012-02-12 Thread proper
Can you leave please a copy in the wiki? In case the pastbin gets deleted, it makes sense to have a copy. And if updates are needed, it's easier to cooperate. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/m

[tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread proper
Ghostery should not be added to TBB, it's not Free Software. No source code available. TBB would rely on a single company. If all that would not be the case, and if it's safe to implement, I'd be happy to see it in TBB. Same goes for Adblock Plus. If it's safe, it should come preinstalled with TBB

[tor-talk] Quick and Dirty How To Guide for Iran

2012-02-12 Thread Low-Key²
Hey, all. I put together a quick how to guide based off of some of the resources posted here, and various others on the net, to try and make it easier for the less experienced to get an obfuscated Tor Bridge running for Iran. It can be found at http://pastebin.com/09A1WgXc at the moment. If a

[tor-talk] Trying to build the TOR Obsfproxy

2012-02-12 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
Howdy? I just started in trying to build this and am getting errors that indicate problems with SSL: $ git clone https://git.torproject.org/obfsproxy.git Cloning into obfsproxy... error: SSL certificate problem, verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER

[tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 2.2.x Ubuntu AppArmor Profile

2012-02-12 Thread Number Six
Hello, I've spent some time creating Ubuntu AppArmor profiles for the Tor Browser Bundle and its components and related apps. I've based them upon publicly available profiles that needed some dusting off, updating, and adapting to Tor. For the unfamiliar, AppArmor is a least privilege access cont

[tor-talk] bridge up & down times

2012-02-12 Thread eliaz
I have a few novice questions about a normal bridge I've set up. I've not found answers in the documentation. * Opposite the one country that's so far listed in the usage summary, the #Client column shows "1-8". What does this mean exactly? 1 client? eight? 1 client eight times? * When I do have

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread x
For me, a more basic question is whether installing extensions from a fresh Tor installed is (sufficiently) safe Very real problem see - https://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-usa-09/bh-usa-09-archives.html#Marlinspike watch the slides from 140 onward. Firefox/thunderbird case study detailing jus

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Patrick Mézard
Le 12/02/12 16:53, Brian Franklin a écrit : > Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle > > Two reasons > > 1. Privacy. Fairly obvious why we do this. Stopping ads and ad > tracking is consistent with the privacy mission of the Tor Project. > > 2. Network health. Congestion has

Re: [tor-talk] Help users in Iran reach the internet

2012-02-12 Thread Low-Key²
--- On Sun, 2/12/12, Runa A. Sandvik wrote: > Have you tried the client instructions (Step 2a) on > https://www.torproject.org/projects/obfsproxy-instructions.html.en > ? Yes. I found the issue. Wrong version of Tor daemon was still running. Thanks for the quick reply.

[tor-talk] obfuscated bridge running

2012-02-12 Thread Seth Willson
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Re: [tor-talk] where did Aurora go

2012-02-12 Thread eliaz
On Fri Feb 10 21:05:59 UTC 2012 Sebastian Hahn wrote: > On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:47 PM, eliaz wrote: > > Upon the last TBB update, Aurora 9 was replaced by FFox 10, the same > > FFox that I use for my clear browsing. Both have the same icon, > > which makes it a bother to be sure I'm in the correct br

Re: [tor-talk] Help users in Iran reach the internet

2012-02-12 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Low-Key² wrote: > I'm running into an issue involving obfsproxy.  I've followed the > instructions provided by Jacob.  From a friend's machine at a different IP > address, if I use Vidalia and point the bridge and the ORPort at 9001, it > works without any issue

[tor-talk] Do You Like Online Privacy? You May Be a Terrorist

2012-02-12 Thread Christopher A. Lindsey
From an article at: http://publicintelligence.net/do-you-like-online-privacy-you-may-be-a-terrorist/ February 1, 2012 in News Public Intelligence A flyer [1] designed by the FBI and the Department of Justice to promote suspicious activity reporting in internet cafes lists basic tools used for on

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/12/2012 10:41 AM, Brian Franklin wrote: Unknown makes a good point. The options should be set globally for all users of the Tor Bundle to avoid any profiling. Those who have a need for further configuration do so at their own risk. Good point. Originally, at least part of the Tor design

Re: [tor-talk] Help users in Iran reach the internet

2012-02-12 Thread Low-Key²
I'm running into an issue involving obfsproxy. I've followed the instructions provided by Jacob. From a friend's machine at a different IP address, if I use Vidalia and point the bridge and the ORPort at 9001, it works without any issues. However, if I point the bridge to the port setup by ob

Re: [tor-talk] tor-blocking sites

2012-02-12 Thread Arturo Filastò
On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Mike Perry wrote: > As far as I know, no one has ever tried it. Some academics once pointed > out that proof-of-work would not work for email, but that was primarily > because email is often one-to-many. They did not consider one-to-one > activity (like web page acce

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Brian Franklin
Unknown makes a good point. The options should be set globally for all users of the Tor Bundle to avoid any profiling. Those who have a need for further configuration do so at their own risk. Tracking is a danger and bandwidth is scarce. Something has to be done about the ad problem. Discoura

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread krugar
i tend to agree, but i guess theres several things to keep in mind: - Usability. Ghostery is _very_ user friendly, but still it can break widget based sites, e.g. iGoogle. - Endorsement. If a Plugin is included into the TBB, that may be considered as "the Tor guys think this is very safe!" i run

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread unknown
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:00:59 +0100 Martin Hubbard wrote: > RefControl set to spoof referrer as host webroot is also useful, I think. > - Original Message - > From: Brian Franklin > Sent: 02/12/12 09:53 AM > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery

Re: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Hubbard
RefControl set to spoof referrer as host webroot is also useful, I think. - Original Message - From: Brian Franklin Sent: 02/12/12 09:53 AM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be

[tor-talk] Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle

2012-02-12 Thread Brian Franklin
Adblock Plus and Ghostery should be included in Tor bundle Two reasons 1. Privacy. Fairly obvious why we do this. Stopping ads and ad tracking is consistent with the privacy mission of the Tor Project. 2. Network health. Congestion has always been a problem on Tor. Installing these plugins to

Re: [tor-talk] Increasing obfsproxies with "the cloud"

2012-02-12 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 4:12 AM, Michael J.J. Tiffany wrote: > Would a tremendous number of new nodes with the obfsproxy code, running on > EC2/Rackspace/random-cloud-provider, be helpful at this point?  If so, how > much is too much? Hi, We have a lot of obfsproxy bridges running at the moment.

Re: [tor-talk] Added a tor node

2012-02-12 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Michael Van Veen wrote: > Hello! Hi, > I just followed the directions on this page: > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2012-February/023070.html, > having first picked up the link on hacker news. > > I had to tweak things a little bit to work, but