Re: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the effects on Tor are....?)

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Bader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13.10.2011 23:51, katmagic wrote: > On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 17:05 +0200, Andreas Bader wrote: > On 13.10.2011 14:02, Karsten N. wrote: Am 13.10.2011 08:39, schrieb William Wrightman: > Is moving to Linux one solution? I agree with A

Re: [tor-talk] TBB as user debian-tor

2011-10-13 Thread Julian Yon
On 13/10/11 20:49, sigi wrote: > Now it is possible to launch TBB as user debian-tor with the command: > xhost + & sudo -u debian-tor /tor-browser_en-US/start-tor-browser Eek. "xhost +" pretty much leaves you wide open. Anything that can connect to your X server is a threat. Unless you don't mind

Re: [tor-talk] Ideas to securely implement PGP encryption/decryption

2011-10-13 Thread katmagic
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 13:37 -0700, Mike Perry wrote: > Thus spake Moritz Bartl (mor...@torservers.net): > > > On 11.10.2011 04:07, Mike Perry wrote: > > >> At the moment, I cannot think of any attack vectors once you combine it > > >> with enabled Torbutton (or a stripped down Tor Browser) where a

Re: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the effects on Tor are....?)

2011-10-13 Thread katmagic
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 17:05 +0200, Andreas Bader wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 13.10.2011 14:02, Karsten N. wrote: > > Am 13.10.2011 08:39, schrieb William Wrightman: > >> Is moving to Linux one solution? > > > > I agree with Adrew, there is no 100% solution. > >

Re: [tor-talk] Trouble with 2.2.33-3 - Dirty workaround to avoid user local-tor in Linux

2011-10-13 Thread unknown
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:28:52 +0100 Julian Yon wrote: > OOI, what's your rationale for believing that your globally configured > tor is more secure than the one in TBB? 1. Globally configured tor provided specially for Debian-Linux from http://deb.torproject.org . Signigicant part of Tor-netwo

Re: [tor-talk] Trouble with 2.2.33-3 - Dirty workaround to avoid user local-tor in Linux

2011-10-13 Thread Julian Yon
On 13/10/11 21:32, unknown wrote: > In Linux system daemons more secure than user-running programms by design. I'm not going to respond to all your points. Some are reasonable enough. But this statement worries me. If we were talking about OpenBSD I'd still raise an eyebrow, and Linux has a far b

[tor-talk] TBB as user debian-tor

2011-10-13 Thread sigi
Hi, since the dropping of Torbutton and suggesting Tor Browser Bundle to use now, I was a little unhappy to start all Tor-processes as a normal user in Debian... Today I've changed the user of the directory tor-browser_en-US and all it's files to debian-tor with: chown -R debian-tor tor-brow

Re: [tor-talk] Trouble with 2.2.33-3 - Dirty workaround to avoid user local-tor in Linux

2011-10-13 Thread Julian Yon
On 13/10/11 20:19, unknown wrote: > May be developers just give TBB-Linux users non-default config options: "Use > system Tor". > Please, don't enforce to use TBB with local Tor for advanced users! > Don't ruin a flexibility of transparency tor-firewalling and > security of using /etc/init.d/tor

Re: [tor-talk] Trouble with 2.2.33-3 - Dirty workaround to avoid user local-tor in Linux

2011-10-13 Thread unknown
> > > : Hope that Debian packages with separated tor-daemon itself, Tor-browser > > and > > : Tor-browser-plugins will be created sometime > > > > This is unlikely unless someone else does the work. > Dirty workaround recipe: 1. Leave your transparency torifying iptables-firewall rules as is

[tor-talk] using themes in Aurora

2011-10-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Using addons, plugins, etc. of ALL sorts is a touchy subject regarding Tor & anonymity. I'm wondering about use of Firefox themes & addons like Tab Mix Plus? Any thoughts on the topic? I give the native theme in Aurora / Firefox (7) low marks for usability, including overall tabs functions /

Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Marco Bonetti (si...@slackware.it): > I did some quick tests with TBB on Linux, versions 0.2.33-2 and 0.2.33-3. > In both cases I get these results: > 1) https://check.torproject.org/ - no warning > 2) https://check.torproject.org/?lang=en-US&small=1 - warning Yes, we made this page wa

Re: [tor-talk] Tor compromised?

2011-10-13 Thread Brandon Wiley
I'm all for security research and finding vulnerabilities, in Tor and otherwise. Attacks that enumerate bridges are of particular interest. However, the actual IPs discovered have no publication value. Releasing them is just irresponsible. In order to receive credit, he just needs to publish the at

Re: [tor-talk] Tor compromised?

2011-10-13 Thread Dave Jevans
I went to French bilingual school through high school. its rusty, but here's additional info: He mapped TOR bridges and included them in the attack vector. These IPs will be published in November. He claims that 30% of entry nodes and bridges run Windows and are subject to privilege escalat

Re: [tor-talk] Tor compromised?

2011-10-13 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 08:59:35AM -0400, and...@torproject.org wrote: > it sounds like they wrote malware to watch the ram > in a MS Windows relay and exploit MS Windows weaknesses to read some > crypto keys. Also, keep an eye out for claims like "25% of the Tor relays runs Windows, so if I can

Re: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the effects on Tor are....?)

2011-10-13 Thread Andreas Bader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13.10.2011 14:02, Karsten N. wrote: > Am 13.10.2011 08:39, schrieb William Wrightman: >> Is moving to Linux one solution? > > I agree with Adrew, there is no 100% solution. > > But you can do as much as possible to increase your security. > > Mov

Re: [tor-talk] WSJ- Google- Sonic Mr. Applebaum

2011-10-13 Thread Julian Yon
On 13/10/11 13:30, Achter Lieber wrote: > "In such a model, making the server too secure can itself be a > risk." > Sorry, is it just me? I am amazed at what this sentence is acquiesing > to. Eventually one cannot run faster, find another place or way to > hide nor dodge any longer. Just had to get

Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 10/13/2011 3:48 AM, Mike Perry wrote: Thus spake Koh Choon Lin (2choon...@gmail.com): Hi the same think happened for me... after downloading the nwe version and running TBB aurora come out with the same message of update... Second that. What URL are you guys being sent to on check.torpr

Re: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the effects on Tor are....?)

2011-10-13 Thread Karsten N.
Am 13.10.2011 08:39, schrieb William Wrightman: > Is moving to Linux one solution? I agree with Adrew, there is no 100% solution. But you can do as much as possible to increase your security. Moving to Linux (or OpenBSD ;-) ) is one step. Full disk encryption is possible. For Debian or Ubuntu y

Re: [tor-talk] WSJ- Google- Sonic Mr. Applebaum

2011-10-13 Thread Achter Lieber
- Original Message - From: Jeroen Massar Sent: 10/11/11 07:34 PM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] WSJ- Google- Sonic Mr. Applebaum On 2011-10-11 13:48 , Julian Yon wrote: > On 11/10/11 09:07, Eugen Leitl wrote: >>> At one point or another they just apply rubberho

Re: [tor-talk] Tor compromised?

2011-10-13 Thread andrew
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:30:15AM +0200, g.lo.sub...@gmail.com wrote 0.4K bytes in 7 lines about: : French students were able to exploit a vulnerability in Tor network : Details here (french): : http://www.itespresso.fr/securite-it-la-confiance-dans-le-reseau-d-anonymisation-tor-est-ebranlee-472

Re: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the effects on Tor are....?)

2011-10-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2011-10-13 13:40 , and...@torproject.org wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:39:12PM -0700, williamwright...@yahoo.com > wrote 1.1K bytes in 24 lines about: : Keyloggers would, I assume, > defeat the whole purpose of Tor since the URL would be recorded and > sent to the fedz. > > If you lose co

Re: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the effects on Tor are....?)

2011-10-13 Thread andrew
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:39:12PM -0700, williamwright...@yahoo.com wrote 1.1K bytes in 24 lines about: : Keyloggers would, I assume, defeat the whole purpose of Tor since the URL would be recorded and sent to the fedz. If you lose control over your local computer, tor cannot help you. If the a

Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Koh Choon Lin
Hi On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Koh Choon Lin <2choon...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > >> the same think happened for me... >> after downloading the nwe version and running TBB >> >> aurora come out with the same message of update... > > Second that. > I did a check again and its fixed now. Thanks

Re: [tor-talk] Qubes TorVM (and more fun :)

2011-10-13 Thread anonym
10/05/2011 07:02 AM, coderman: > Relevant to a few threads lately: > > "Today, I would like to showcase some of the cool things that one can > do with the Qubes networking infrastructure, ... the use of multiple > Net VMs for creating isolated networks, the use of a Proxy VM for > creating a trans

Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Zaher F .
it is fixed now. > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:42:56 +0800 > From: 2choon...@gmail.com > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install > latest TBB > > Hi > > > the same think happened for me... > > after downloading the nwe

Re: [tor-talk] Convergence.io + Tor

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Perry
This was discussed before, though in a random thread. See: http://archives.seul.org/tor/talk/Sep-2011/msg00088.html Thus spake Roc Admin (onionrou...@gmail.com): > bump > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Roc Admin wrote: > > Hey, it's been a while so I'm sorry if this has already been > > d

Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Marco Bonetti
I did some quick tests with TBB on Linux, versions 0.2.33-2 and 0.2.33-3. In both cases I get these results: 1) https://check.torproject.org/ - no warning 2) https://check.torproject.org/?lang=en-US&small=1 - warning 3) https://check.torproject.org/?lang=en-US&small=1&uptodate=1 - no warning 2 was

Re: [tor-talk] notice - newer ver available just after install latest TBB

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Koh Choon Lin (2choon...@gmail.com): > Hi > > > the same think happened for me... > > after downloading the nwe version and running TBB > > > > aurora come out with the same message of update... > > Second that. What URL are you guys being sent to on check.torproject.org? Have you tr

[tor-talk] Tor compromised?

2011-10-13 Thread George-Lopez
French students were able to exploit a vulnerability in Tor network Details here (french): http://www.itespresso.fr/securite-it-la-confiance-dans-le-reseau-d-anonymisation-tor-est-ebranlee-47287.html/2 ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.o