Re: [tor-talk] Google and Gmail

2011-09-10 Thread Marsh Ray
On 09/10/2011 10:22 PM, Andre Risling wrote: I've noticed a lot of people that are concerned about privacy and security are using Gmail accounts. Do you really trust Google not to read your email and tell THE MAN what you've been saying? No. But technologies like Tor are general purpose and u

Re: [tor-talk] Google and Gmail

2011-09-10 Thread Koh Choon Lin
Hi On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Andre Risling wrote: > I've noticed a lot of people that are concerned about privacy and > security are using Gmail accounts. > > Do you really trust Google not to read your email and tell THE MAN what > you've been saying? One can use encrypted mail with Gma

Re: [tor-talk] Tor banned in Pakistan.

2011-09-10 Thread Andre Risling
On Saturday, September 10, 2011 9:55 PM, and...@torproject.org wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:08:35PM +0100, pump...@cotse.net wrote 0.7K > bytes in 16 lines about: > : Forgive my ignorance but why would there be any need to inspect > : packets for tunnels? Would the authorities not just ask

[tor-talk] Google and Gmail

2011-09-10 Thread Andre Risling
I've noticed a lot of people that are concerned about privacy and security are using Gmail accounts. Do you really trust Google not to read your email and tell THE MAN what you've been saying? -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherev

Re: [tor-talk] Tor banned in Pakistan.

2011-09-10 Thread andrew
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:08:35PM +0100, pump...@cotse.net wrote 0.7K bytes in 16 lines about: : Forgive my ignorance but why would there be any need to inspect : packets for tunnels? Would the authorities not just ask every ISP : to monitor the IPs to which their clients are connecting and if t

Re: [tor-talk] Tor via DNS tunnel

2011-09-10 Thread andrew
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:06:08AM +1000, har...@violaceo.us wrote 3.3K bytes in 75 lines about: : For a while I've had my eye on a system that abuses the open nature of DNS requests to tunnel data out of a firewalled / censored environment. It would be interesting to see this implemented into t

Re: [tor-talk] I've yet to understand attacks on hidden services

2011-09-10 Thread Jim
grarpamp wrote: >> EVERYONE should be running NTP, of course, not the relatively few that do. >> If you happen to still be on a windows machine, here is a FREE utility > > And if you prefer the open source NTP standard that everyone else uses... > > http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/ExternalTi

Re: [tor-talk] Tor banned in Pakistan.

2011-09-10 Thread Ted Smith
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 22:08 +0100, Matthew wrote: > >> It would be good to know what technologies these ISPs will implement to > >> do the packet inspection for encrypted tunnels. Half the problem is you > >> don't really know what they'll be looking for and so you don't know how > >> to circumven

Re: [tor-talk] TBB 2.2.32 & Connection issues

2011-09-10 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake David Carlson (carlson...@sbcglobal.net): > Yesterday I downloaded tor-browser-2.2.32-3_en-US.exe and set it up on a USB > stick.  When I try to start it, it gives a connection refused by peer message > just after parsing the GEOP.  If I retry, it says Tor stopped > unexpectedly. Vid

Re: [tor-talk] Tor banned in Pakistan.

2011-09-10 Thread Matthew
It would be good to know what technologies these ISPs will implement to do the packet inspection for encrypted tunnels. Half the problem is you don't really know what they'll be looking for and so you don't know how to circumvent. Forgive my ignorance but why would there be any need to inspect

Re: [tor-talk] Mac?

2011-09-10 Thread Koh Choon Lin
Hi > I've noticed in Ubuntu that when the computer is booted up and before I > connect to the web the computer needs the "keyring" password.  No matter > whether I try to change my  mac address that stupid keyring thing won't > let me do anything until it gets the "answer it wants".  So the passwo

Re: [tor-talk] Dutch Police Investigation & Tor Spike: Correlation Or Also Causation?

2011-09-10 Thread Curious Kid
- Original Message - > From: "and...@torproject.org" > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Dutch Police Investigation & Tor Spike: Correlation > Or Also Causation? > > The current rumors around this spike in bridge queries and usage is: > > 1. Someone c

[tor-talk] Tor via DNS tunnel

2011-09-10 Thread Harold
For a while I've had my eye on a system that abuses the open nature of DNS requests to tunnel data out of a firewalled / censored environment. It would be interesting to see this implemented into tor bridges as an additional method of circumventing blocking. I can't think of any reason that th

Re: [tor-talk] Tor banned in Pakistan.

2011-09-10 Thread andrew
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 05:13:32AM +, moeedsa...@gmail.com wrote 4.5K bytes in 111 lines about: : would using bridges prevent the ISP from knowing that a person is using tor? Yes. However, any analysis of the traffic using deep packet inspection will show it is using encryption which is illeg

Re: [tor-talk] Dutch Police Investigation & Tor Spike: Correlation Or Also Causation?

2011-09-10 Thread andrew
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 08:20:39AM +0200, k...@uva.nl wrote 1.8K bytes in 40 lines about: : I know, mind the last part (see below) of my post, which was probably : WAY too long. I'm wondering whether, in lack of a better explanation, : the bridge spike might have been caused by undisclosed activit

Re: [tor-talk] Dutch Police Investigation & Tor Spike: Correlation Or Also Causation?

2011-09-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 08:20:39AM +0200, Matthijs R. Koot wrote: > > : Requests: Why? [1] from the Tor-talk mailinglist. Some believe (credits > > : to @ly_gs for enlightening me) that the August 2011 spike in Tor users > > : via bridges may be related to the Dutch police investigation on Tor > >

Re: [tor-talk] I've yet to understand attacks on hidden services

2011-09-10 Thread grarpamp
> EVERYONE should be running NTP, of course, not the relatively few that do. > If you happen to still be on a windows machine, here is a FREE utility And if you prefer the open source NTP standard that everyone else uses... http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/ExternalTimeRelatedLinks And I'm qu

Re: [tor-talk] Email through Tor and VPN questions

2011-09-10 Thread grarpamp
> I recently setup my own Tor relay, and its exciting! Yes. > (1) I read in a recent list posting that paid "private" VPN services > provides no anonymity. According to some of those providers, they > don't keep any log of your connections. Is this just a marketing > gimmick, or are there other r

Re: [tor-talk] Dutch Police Investigation & Tor Spike: Correlation Or Also Causation?

2011-09-10 Thread Matthijs R. Koot
Hi Andrew, > : Requests: Why? [1] from the Tor-talk mailinglist. Some believe (credits > : to @ly_gs for enlightening me) that the August 2011 spike in Tor users > : via bridges may be related to the Dutch police investigation on Tor > : hidden services hosting child pornography, which also took p