Re: [tor-dev] wfpadtools: comments about primitives

2014-05-30 Thread Marc Juarez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Kevin, Thanks for the comments :) I sketched a very simple diagram of the network stack. It lives in the same layer as the other PTs. The goal is not to build a PT that is composable with other PTs although, as I was discussing with Yawning and Geo

Re: [tor-dev] wfpadtools: comments about primitives

2014-05-30 Thread Yawning Angel
On Fri, 30 May 2014 20:40:07 +0200 Marc Juarez wrote: > >> 4. Implement the protocol's handshake. > >> > >> I took a look to the Scramblesuit's handshake.The handshake of this > >> protocol would boil down to the negotiation of the parameters > >> (e.g., probability distributions) for the padding.

Re: [tor-dev] wfpadtools: comments about primitives

2014-05-30 Thread Marc Juarez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yawning, thanks a lot for your comments. On 05/30/2014 07:44 PM, Yawning Angel wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2014 17:42:39 +0100 > George Kadianakis wrote: >> Marc Juarez writes: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I am a GSoC student working in a new PT for the devel

Re: [tor-dev] wfpadtools: comments about primitives

2014-05-30 Thread Marc Juarez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi George, Thanks for your comments. On 05/30/2014 06:42 PM, George Kadianakis wrote: > Marc Juarez writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am a GSoC student working in a new PT for the development of future >> Website Fingerprinting countermeasures in Tor.

Re: [tor-dev] wfpadtools: comments about primitives

2014-05-30 Thread Yawning Angel
On Fri, 30 May 2014 17:42:39 +0100 George Kadianakis wrote: > Marc Juarez writes: > > > Hi all, > > > > I am a GSoC student working in a new PT for the development of > > future Website Fingerprinting countermeasures in Tor. > > > > The PT is not targeting any specific defense, but to link paddi

Re: [tor-dev] wfpadtools: comments about primitives

2014-05-30 Thread Kevin P Dyer
Hi Marc, Thanks for doing this work, I'm excited to see what you learn this summer. However, I'm a bit confused by statements like: "The idea is to implement a set of primitives that any link padding-based defense would benefit [from]." Can you provide a high-level diagram that explains where yo

Re: [tor-dev] wfpadtools: comments about primitives

2014-05-30 Thread George Kadianakis
Marc Juarez writes: > Hi all, > > I am a GSoC student working in a new PT for the development of future > Website Fingerprinting countermeasures in Tor. > > The PT is not targeting any specific defense, but to link padding > defenses in general. The idea is to implement a set of primitives that >

[tor-dev] wfpadtools: comments about primitives

2014-05-30 Thread Marc Juarez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I am a GSoC student working in a new PT for the development of future Website Fingerprinting countermeasures in Tor. The PT is not targeting any specific defense, but to link padding defenses in general. The idea is to implement a set of prim