Re: [tor-dev] WTF-PAD and the future

2018-08-03 Thread Mike Perry
Hi Yawning! Yawning Angel: > On 08/02/2018 08:26 PM, Mike Perry wrote: > > Should we consider recommending basket2 also? > > No. > > > Is anyone running bridges with it? Probably not, I guess :/. > > No one should be, it is incomplete, buggy, and needs a re-design. Thanks for the heads up. >

Re: [tor-dev] WTF-PAD and the future

2018-08-03 Thread Yawning Angel
On 08/02/2018 08:26 PM, Mike Perry wrote: > Should we consider recommending basket2 also? No. > Is anyone running bridges with it? Probably not, I guess :/. No one should be, it is incomplete, buggy, and needs a re-design. As a side note, I question the utility of a PT that has the AGPL3 networ

Re: [tor-dev] WTF-PAD and the future

2018-08-02 Thread Mike Perry
Tobias Pulls: > On 29/07/18 15:42, George Kadianakis wrote: > >>> 4) They also told me of research by Tobias Pulls which eliminates the > >>>needs for histograms in WTF-PAD and instead it samples from the > >>>probability distribution directly. They think that this can simplify > >>>thi

Re: [tor-dev] WTF-PAD and the future

2018-07-29 Thread teor
> On 29 Jul 2018, at 23:42, George Kadianakis wrote: > >>> 2) From what I understand you are also hoping to use WTF-PAD to protect >>> against circuit fingerprinting and not just website >>> fingerprinting. They told me that while this might be plausible, >>> there is no current research o

Re: [tor-dev] WTF-PAD and the future

2018-07-29 Thread Tobias Pulls
On 29/07/18 15:42, George Kadianakis wrote: >>> 4) They also told me of research by Tobias Pulls which eliminates the >>>needs for histograms in WTF-PAD and instead it samples from the >>>probability distribution directly. They think that this can simplify >>>things somewhat. Any though

Re: [tor-dev] WTF-PAD and the future

2018-07-29 Thread George Kadianakis
Mike Perry writes: > George Kadianakis: >> Hello Mike, >> >> I had a talk with Marc and Mohsen today about WTF-PAD. I now understand >> much more about WTF-PAD and how it works with regards to histograms. I >> think I might even understand enough to start some sort of conversation >> about it:

Re: [tor-dev] WTF-PAD and the future

2018-07-27 Thread Mike Perry
George Kadianakis: > Hello Mike, > > I had a talk with Marc and Mohsen today about WTF-PAD. I now understand > much more about WTF-PAD and how it works with regards to histograms. I > think I might even understand enough to start some sort of conversation > about it: > > Here are some takeaways:

[tor-dev] WTF-PAD and the future

2018-07-27 Thread George Kadianakis
Hello Mike, I had a talk with Marc and Mohsen today about WTF-PAD. I now understand much more about WTF-PAD and how it works with regards to histograms. I think I might even understand enough to start some sort of conversation about it: Here are some takeaways: 1) Marc and Mohsen think that WTF