Thus spake Adam Shostack (a...@homeport.org):
> On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 12:54:35PM -0700, Mike Perry wrote:
> | > I think this might be the right direction. The person running Tor
> | > knows two things: if they're worried about someone monitoring their
> | > network right now, and how technical
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 12:54:35PM -0700, Mike Perry wrote:
| > I think this might be the right direction. The person running Tor
| > knows two things: if they're worried about someone monitoring their
| > network right now, and how technical they are (and their desire to tweak
| > settings).
| >
Thus spake Adam Shostack (a...@homeport.org):
> On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 02:09:33AM -0700, Mike Perry wrote:
> | Thus spake Andrew Lewman (and...@torproject.is):
>
> | > One answer is the user shouldn't care. Tor Browser should automatically
> | > loop through the various kinds of connectivity and
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 02:09:33AM -0700, Mike Perry wrote:
> Thus spake Andrew Lewman (and...@torproject.is):
>
> > On Fri, 3 May 2013 16:05:15 -0400
> > "Runa A. Sandvik" wrote:
> >
> > > I disagree. The Tor help desk sees a ton of requests from users saying
> > > that Tor is unable to connect
Mike Perry:
> We could do this same thing to promote uncensored Tor clients to various
> types of pluggable transports.
I asked this some time ago:
"[tor-talk] anonymity: bridge users vs. entry guard users" [1]
If everyone only uses pluggable transports... That's quite an
interesting idea. You wo
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 02:09:33AM -0700, Mike Perry wrote:
| Thus spake Andrew Lewman (and...@torproject.is):
| > One answer is the user shouldn't care. Tor Browser should automatically
| > loop through the various kinds of connectivity and just connect.
| > non-obfs bridges really should get who
Andrew Lewman:
> On Fri, 3 May 2013 16:05:15 -0400
> "Runa A. Sandvik" wrote:
>
>> I disagree. The Tor help desk sees a ton of requests from users saying
>> that Tor is unable to connect, and the simple fix is to give them a
>> bridge or two. Not all users know what they need to connect, and not
Thus spake Andrew Lewman (and...@torproject.is):
> On Fri, 3 May 2013 16:05:15 -0400
> "Runa A. Sandvik" wrote:
>
> > I disagree. The Tor help desk sees a ton of requests from users saying
> > that Tor is unable to connect, and the simple fix is to give them a
> > bridge or two. Not all users kn
On Fri, 3 May 2013 16:05:15 -0400
"Runa A. Sandvik" wrote:
> I disagree. The Tor help desk sees a ton of requests from users saying
> that Tor is unable to connect, and the simple fix is to give them a
> bridge or two. Not all users know what they need to connect, and not
> all users will know th
Thus spake adrelanos (adrela...@riseup.net):
> Mike Perry:
> > In those situations (which are the real reason we're asking *before*
> > connecting - we don't want those people to touch the public Tor network
> > before giving them the option not to), simply checking their system
> > proxy settings
Mike Perry:
> In those situations (which are the real reason we're asking *before*
> connecting - we don't want those people to touch the public Tor network
> before giving them the option not to), simply checking their system
> proxy settings might not be sufficient. The user only needs their prox
Thus spake Tom Ritter (t...@ritter.vg):
> Sweet! However I think this Wizard is a super-technical version of
> something that should be much simpler if we intend to be targeting
> non-technical users.
>
> Feedback:
> http://trial.pearlcrescent.com/tor/torlauncher/2013-05-03/SetupWizard/screen1-p
Tom Ritter:
> Sweet! However I think this Wizard is a super-technical version of
> something that should be much simpler if we intend to be targeting
> non-technical users.
>
> Feedback:
> http://trial.pearlcrescent.com/tor/torlauncher/2013-05-03/SetupWizard/screen1-proxyYesNo.png
>
> Question 1
Runa A. Sandvik:
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Andrew F wrote:
>> Users who need these connections will have them and those that don't,
>> probably won't know what they are and thats ok.
>
> I disagree. The Tor help desk sees a ton of requests from users saying
> that Tor is unable to connect
Sweet! However I think this Wizard is a super-technical version of
something that should be much simpler if we intend to be targeting
non-technical users.
Feedback:
http://trial.pearlcrescent.com/tor/torlauncher/2013-05-03/SetupWizard/screen1-proxyYesNo.png
Question 1 (this is literally the firs
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Andrew F wrote:
> Users who need these connections will have them and those that don't,
> probably won't know what they are and thats ok.
I disagree. The Tor help desk sees a ton of requests from users saying
that Tor is unable to connect, and the simple fix is to
On 5/3/13 4:10 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
http://trial.pearlcrescent.com/tor/torlauncher/2013-05-03/SetupWizard/wizard-all.png
(composite of all of the wizard panels).
While i've still not tried running it, i think that's very important to
have a "default way" where the user with just "1 click" i
On the contrary, I think you should list them all under an menu item called
advanced connections.
Users who need these connections will have them and those that don't,
probably won't know what they are and thats ok.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Runa A. Sandvik wrote:
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Lunar wrote:
> Mark Smith:
>> http://trial.pearlcrescent.com/tor/torlauncher/2013-05-03/SetupWizard/wizard-all.png
>> (composite of all of the wizard panels).
>
> "If you are not sure how to answer this question, look at the Internet
> settings in another browser t
Mark Smith:
> Currently, Tor Launcher provides access to the basic Tor network
> settings that are needed by TBB users. We would like some feedback
> on the Network Settings dialog (accessible from within the browser
> after it starts up) and on a "first run" wizard that we have created
> based on
Looks good.
I think it needs it's own trac component.
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