Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-23 Thread ilv
> > If this conversation moves elsewhere, I would really like to be kept in the > loop. > To all the people interested, below you'll find a wiki page where we can keep track of all the ideas that have come up. If you have your own idea, please add it :) https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-22 Thread ilv
> > People can use the Tor network to download Tor Browser, with the aid of a > bootstrapping program. (Which can be much simpler than Tor Browser itself - > see below.) > > If people can't use the Tor network to download a file, then it's unlikely > that Tor Browser will work for them. > >

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-22 Thread ilv
> Hi, > Hi! > Maybe an important difference here is that GetTor is a way to circumvent > censorship (if I understand correctly), while our extension works to > provide authentication only. I think it's a good idea to rely on browser > stores not to be censored in the same way as your website. B

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-22 Thread ilv
On 19/06/15 17:17, Adam Pritchard wrote: >> >> Oh, nice! Although for some reason ./testssl.sh --mx torproject.org does >> not work for me, it says torproject.org has no mx records. >> > > Weird. I just ran it and put the output into a gist -- pretty[1], plain[2]. > And the CheckTLS sender test[

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-20 Thread teor
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:37:07 -0300 > From: ilv > To: tor-dev@lists.torproject.org > > > … > >> Is it possible to submit an app to the app stores (I am thinking Apple's >> restrictions, here) that would bootstrap a Tor Browser download over the Tor >> network? >> >> For example: >> 1. D

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-20 Thread sajolida
ilv: > On 16/06/15 05:15, intrigeri wrote: >> You might be interested in the work that's happening there: >> https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/bootstrapping/extension/ >> >> (I'm not directly involved in this, for more information ask >> sajol...@pimienta.org.) > > This looks great, thanks for the

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-19 Thread Adam Pritchard
> > Oh, nice! Although for some reason ./testssl.sh --mx torproject.org does > not work for me, it says torproject.org has no mx records. > Weird. I just ran it and put the output into a gist -- pretty[1], plain[2]. And the CheckTLS sender test[3], for good measure. > Yeah, our current approach

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-18 Thread ilv
Hi Adam, On 18/06/15 16:40, Adam Pritchard wrote: >> >> I'm currently the maintainer of GetTor [1], and together with Nima and >> Sukhbir we have been talking about the future of it. > > > If this conversation moves elsewhere, I would really like to be kept in the > loop. > Good, I'll create a

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-18 Thread ilv
Hi, > > The distributor sounds like a great idea, but, with Option 2, the user should > always be able to fall back to actual links to the cloud services (wherever > possible). This allows users who have trouble with the automated download to > retry later, perhaps at a different location, or

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-18 Thread ilv
Hi Griffin, On 16/06/15 05:54, Griffin Boyce wrote: > > While I don't necessarily want to discourage you from working on > GetTor, it's worth noting the duplicated effort in terms of distribution > apps. My primary project makes downloading Tor (and other privacy > software) from un-censored s

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-18 Thread ilv
On 16/06/15 05:15, intrigeri wrote: > Hi, > Hi, > > You might be interested in the work that's happening there: > https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/bootstrapping/extension/ > > (I'm not directly involved in this, for more information ask > sajol...@pimienta.org.) > This looks great, thanks f

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-18 Thread Adam Pritchard
> > I'm currently the maintainer of GetTor [1], and together with Nima and > Sukhbir we have been talking about the future of it. If this conversation moves elsewhere, I would really like to be kept in the loop. I'm the primary maintainer of Psiphon's email auto-responder, which was initially mo

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-16 Thread teor
> > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:14:54 -0300 > From: ilv > > Hi people, > > … > > With this in mind, we have been discussing about the idea of having a > signed and verified distributor app (desktop), available on official > channels (OSX app store, Google Chrome store, etc), which could ease the

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-16 Thread Griffin Boyce
ilv wrote: With this in mind, we have been discussing about the idea of having a signed and verified distributor app (desktop), available on official channels (OSX app store, Google Chrome store, etc), which could ease the process of downloading and verifying the integrity of Tor Browser. In ot

Re: [tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-16 Thread intrigeri
Hi, ilv wrote (15 Jun 2015 23:14:54 GMT) : > With this in mind, we have been discussing about the idea of having a > signed and verified distributor app (desktop), available on official > channels (OSX app store, Google Chrome store, etc), which could ease the > process of downloading and verifyin

[tor-dev] The future of GetTor

2015-06-15 Thread ilv
Hi people, I'm currently the maintainer of GetTor [1], and together with Nima and Sukhbir we have been talking about the future of it. First, let me present you what is (roughly) the current status of GetTor: * We send links to download Tor Browser, along with its signature file. These files ar