[tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-28 Thread Spencer
Hi, Karsten Loesing: Ah, I wasn't referring to anyone specifically. I'm also a fan of David McCandless' work and have his book on the shelf here :) There are two; a new one as of last year. (Next to the wonderful books of Edward Tufte and the great ggplot2 book of Hadley Wickham.) The

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-12 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/12/15 18:18, Spencer wrote: > Hi, Hello Spencer, >> Karsten Loesing: I'm not really worried about server load. At >> least this hasn't been an issue with the current Metrics >> website. >> > > Word. > >> >> There are indeed great visualiza

[tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-09 Thread Spencer
Hi, Karsten Loesing: I'm not really worried about server load. At least this hasn't been an issue with the current Metrics website. Word. There are indeed great visualizations out there If you know of anyone dedicating their life to dataviz, please point, as it seems David McCandless

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-09 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/12/15 04:01, Spencer wrote: > Hi, > >> >> Karsten Loesing: We briefly discussed making a JavaScript-free >> Globe a while ago by using Node.js. I'm not sure whether this >> would also work for Metrics. It may depend on how interactive >> graph

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-09 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/15 17:31, David Goulet wrote: > On 06 Dec (16:52:45), Karsten Loesing wrote: >> Hi everyone, > > [snip] > >> One important and still somewhat low-hanging fruit is: #10 give >> external developers more support when developing visualizations

[tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-08 Thread Spencer
Hi, Karsten Loesing: We briefly discussed making a JavaScript-free Globe a while ago by using Node.js. I'm not sure whether this would also work for Metrics. It may depend on how interactive graphs are supposed to be. As said later in this thread, .png seems okay. Though I see the load on

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-07 Thread David Goulet
On 06 Dec (16:52:45), Karsten Loesing wrote: > Hi everyone, [snip] > One important and still somewhat low-hanging fruit is: #10 give > external developers more support when developing visualizations that > could later be added to Metrics. This requires better documentation, > but it also require

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-07 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/15 12:10, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: > >> On 7 Dec 2015, at 19:14, Karsten Loesing >> wrote: >> >> On 07/12/15 01:07, Spencer wrote: >>> Hi, teor: Do David's visualizations already use JavaScript? We could make (another) part

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-07 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 7 Dec 2015, at 19:14, Karsten Loesing wrote: > > On 07/12/15 01:07, Spencer wrote: > > Hi, > >> teor: Do David's visualizations already use JavaScript? We could > >> make (another) part of the metrics site use JavaScript. > >> > > > > Can the data be processed on the host server and sent to

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-07 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/15 01:07, Spencer wrote: > Hi, >> teor: Do David's visualizations already use JavaScript? We could >> make (another) part of the metrics site use JavaScript. >> > > Can the data be processed on the host server and sent to the > client JS-fre

[tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-06 Thread Spencer
Hi, teor: Do David's visualizations already use JavaScript? We could make (another) part of the metrics site use JavaScript. Can the data be processed on the host server and sent to the client JS-free? Or are we waiting to choose a language before doing any new work? What are the opt

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-06 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 7 Dec 2015, at 02:52, Karsten Loesing wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Hi everyone, > > I posted some thoughts on Scaling Tor Metrics [0] almost two weeks ago > and received very useful feedback from George, David, Thomas, and > Letty. Thanks for that! ... > > ... > > So, one task would be

[tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics, Round 2

2015-12-06 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, I posted some thoughts on Scaling Tor Metrics [0] almost two weeks ago and received very useful feedback from George, David, Thomas, and Letty. Thanks for that! In fact, this is such a big topic and this was so much feedback that I deci

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics

2015-12-01 Thread Letty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 hi, i want to share some thoughts from a person how is mostly into data visualization and not the backend part. # making data easy to access that is mandatory! for me that means not just having access to a csv or json file with the data for a limite

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics

2015-11-27 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 28 Nov 2015, at 01:22, thomas lörtsch wrote: > > I don’t even know what those .tpo’s he mentions are. .tpo is an abbreviation for .torproject.org : a server under the Tor Project's domain. Tim Tim Wilson-Brown (teor) teor2345 at gmail dot com PGP 968F094B teor

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics

2015-11-27 Thread thomas lörtsch
Since the Berlin dev meeting I’ve been working on setting up and feeding an "analytics server" that will provide a Big Data infrastructure filled with raw metrics descriptors ready for consumption by anybody who’s interested in finding what’s in the Tor Metrics data. That obviously affects my ta

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics

2015-11-26 Thread David Goulet
On 25 Nov (16:53:45), Karsten Loesing wrote: > Hello devs, > > the Tor Metrics website [0] claims to be "the primary place to learn > interesting facts about the Tor network" and invites its visitors who > "come across something that is missing" to contact the website authors > about it. That's a

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics

2015-11-26 Thread George Kadianakis
Karsten Loesing writes: > Hello devs, > > the Tor Metrics website [0] claims to be "the primary place to learn > > > > 2.2 Link to external websites > > Somebody might write a website that visualizes Tor network data. The > Tor Metrics team reviews the idea behind it, but not necessarily look

[tor-dev] Scaling Tor Metrics

2015-11-25 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello devs, the Tor Metrics website [0] claims to be "the primary place to learn interesting facts about the Tor network" and invites its visitors who "come across something that is missing" to contact the website authors about it. That's a bold stat