Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 02:19:27PM +0300, George Kadianakis wrote: > Here are some ideas on various achievements/badges that could be > awarded to relay operators (in no particular order): > > - You earned a flag (fast/hsdir/stable/named/exit)! > - Your uptime is over 9000 (seconds/days/months)! >

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

Am 2014-06-10 02:26, schrieb Virgil Griffith: > For a while I've been seeking to grow the Tor network in both size and > goodput. Towards this end, I've explored various avenues such as > increasing user-awareness via tor2web. More recently, I've been exploring > financial incentives like TorCoin

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 05:26:28PM -0700, Virgil Griffith wrote: > I propose the following system for harnessing "warm glow" and "reputation" > for Tor relay operators. Hi Virgil, I agree with your direction here, and I'd love to see some more work on it. In fact, the "per relay" page idea is ne

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

Am 2014-06-10 02:26, schrieb Virgil Griffith: > For a while I've been seeking to grow the Tor network in both size and > goodput. Towards this end, I've explored various avenues such as > increasing user-awareness via tor2web. More recently, I've been > exploring financial incentives like TorCoin

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

> Also, theconcept of naming authorities is about to be phased out [1], so > better not build new services that rely on nicknames. Karsten I love you. Not only do you have fine ideas, you are the greatest feedback provider in the world. Agreed 100%. Replace key-by-nickname with key-by-finger

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

David, Respectfully, financial incentivization is a much more nuanced issue than "TorCoin is bad". TorCoin paper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7r4osQgWVqKTHdxTlowUVpsVmJRcjF3Y3dtcTVscFhEaW5F There are two issues to consider, in order. (1) we wish to engender the creation of additional Tor

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

Hi, On 06/10/2014 02:26 AM, Virgil Griffith wrote: I propose establishing a subdomain on torproject.org giving each Tor relay operator (hereafter affectionately called "Torati") his/her own page using the information her machines provide to the Tor Directory Consensus.

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

The "torcoin" idea is SUSPICIOUS (and makes me think of a thousand conspiracy theories). What is "torcoin"? How can I most effectively and systematically completely destroy this idea? The good news is that we don't need it, it's not endorsed by the Tor Project... and it'll never work. The non-finan

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

On 06/09/2014 08:26 PM, Virgil Griffith wrote: > For a while I've been seeking to grow the Tor network in both size and > goodput. Towards this end, I've explored various avenues such as > increasing user-awareness via tor2web. More recently, I've been exploring > financial incentives like TorCoi

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

[Attempting to move this discussion to tor-dev@ to avoid cross-posting; assuming my Reply-To: header won't get eaten by Mailman..] On 10/06/14 02:26, Virgil Griffith wrote: > For a while I've been seeking to grow the Tor network in both size and > goodput. Towards this end, I've explored various

[tor-dev] Proposal for improving social incentives for relay operators

For a while I've been seeking to grow the Tor network in both size and goodput. Towards this end, I've explored various avenues such as increasing user-awareness via tor2web. More recently, I've been exploring financial incentives like TorCoin. Not wanting to strictly limit ourselves to financia