Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-10-08 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 3:51 PM, grarpamp wrote: > Freenet has talk on their lists of adding 100 new onioncat nodes > to tor and i2p as linked to in this thread... > > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-June/011108.html More folks blogging related to the above... http://mh7mkfve

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-10-05 Thread grarpamp
Many wrote, in subthread started by dawuud 5 days ago: > talk: internet of things, security / exploit / nsa, crypto via tor, > everything over tor, exits This subthread does not concern the subject made for curating / supporting / tracking / developing "Onioncat and Prop224" [1]. Please a) end it,

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-10-05 Thread Tim Kuijsten
Op 05-10-16 om 19:36 schreef Evan d'Entremont: to be more clear, those devices can currently be surveilled passively. If they were encrypted they couldn't be. ic, valid point. I was thinking more of the recent rise in exploited IoT devices[1] and the sad state of IoT security in general. [1]

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-10-05 Thread Evan d'Entremont
to be more clear, those devices can currently be surveilled passively. If they were encrypted they couldn't be. On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:31 PM Evan d'Entremont wrote: > > Changing the subject a bit, isn't The Internet of Things > going to lead to a situation where there are even more NSA, GCHQ,

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-10-05 Thread Evan d'Entremont
> Changing the subject a bit, isn't The Internet of Things going to lead to a situation where there are even more NSA, GCHQ, BND remotely controlled computers with microphones and other sensors all around us They didn't say anything about exploits. I just have several gateways on my desk and none

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-10-04 Thread Tim Kuijsten
Op 04-10-16 om 16:59 schreef Tim Kuijsten: Op 03-10-16 om 19:43 schreef Evan d'Entremont: Not if IoT dev's start encrypting things. How would encryption help against exploited IoT devices? sorry, i meant to ask how would encryption help against *exploiting* IoT devices. ___

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-10-04 Thread Tim Kuijsten
Op 03-10-16 om 19:43 schreef Evan d'Entremont: Not if IoT dev's start encrypting things. How would encryption help against exploited IoT devices? ___ tor-dev mailing list tor-dev@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-10-03 Thread Evan d'Entremont
> > Changing the subject a bit, isn't The Internet of Things > going to lead to a situation where there are even more NSA, GCHQ, BND > remotely controlled computers with microphones and other sensors all > around us > Not if IoT dev's start encrypting things. On a side note, hidden services are a

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-09-30 Thread dawuud
Greetings, again. No it's not good enough if TCP is being layered on top of TCP. Otherwise... then yes it should be good enough. I've previously used it with mosh which uses UDP. Changing the subject a bit, isn't The Internet of Things going to lead to a situation where there are even more NSA

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-09-30 Thread Razvan Dragomirescu
Allow me to second that - for some applications (Internet of Things being the one I'm working on), the volume of data exchanged is very small, so there isn't much chance for packets to be lost or retransmitted. OnionCat + Tor simplify development immensely by giving each node a fixed IPv6 address,

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-09-28 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:30 AM, dawuud wrote: > Are you aware of Tahoe-LAFS? Don't know if they are, or if they are here, all we have is their short post. If they just need an insert and retrieve filestore for small user bases, there are lots of choices. If they need the more global and random

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-09-28 Thread dawuud
OK I'm replying inline; > https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/54rpil/dht_syncthing_bitsync_over_tor/ > > Hi we would like to integrate DHT Bittorrent Syncing over Tor for our > open source encrypted obfuscated media rich notepad app. Why Bittorrent? It's fun to think about using various comp

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-09-28 Thread grarpamp
https://www.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/54rpil/dht_syncthing_bitsync_over_tor/ Hi we would like to integrate DHT Bittorrent Syncing over Tor for our open source encrypted obfuscated media rich notepad app. This app will have for main objective to provide a secure information gathering and sharing t

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-08-08 Thread str4d
On 08/08/16 01:22, Jeremy Rand wrote: >> And most certainly any external layer must be capable of having >> nodes binding natively in the Tor / I2P / etc networks, and >> preferably being strictly private entirely within them (like how >> private Tor / I2P / Bitcoin nets can be deployed by generati

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-08-07 Thread Jeremy Rand
grarpamp: > Hi Jeremy. Hey grarpamp, Sorry for the delayed reply. > In regard your post 'Tor and Namecoin' here... > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-July/011245.html > > In this thread prefixed 'Onioncat and Prop224' started and > spanning from here through now... > https://

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-07-31 Thread grarpamp
Hi Jeremy. In regard your post 'Tor and Namecoin' here... https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-July/011245.html In this thread prefixed 'Onioncat and Prop224' started and spanning from here through now... https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-April/010847.html Onionc

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-06-23 Thread grarpamp
Freenet has talk on their lists of adding 100 new onioncat nodes to tor and i2p as linked to in this thread... https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-June/011108.html Is anyone working on resurrecting the onioncat mailing list and archives? ___

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-05-26 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
On 2016-05-26 13:37, George Kadianakis wrote: > str4d writes: > >> [ text/plain ] >> On 27/04/16 22:31, grarpamp wrote: >>> On 4/25/16, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: > On 22 Apr 2016, at 17:03, grarpamp wrote: > > FYI: The onioncat folks are interested in collaborating > w

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-05-26 Thread George Kadianakis
str4d writes: > [ text/plain ] > On 27/04/16 22:31, grarpamp wrote: >> On 4/25/16, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: >>> On 22 Apr 2016, at 17:03, grarpamp wrote: FYI: The onioncat folks are interested in collaborating with tor folks regarding prop224. https://gitweb.

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-05-26 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
On 2016-05-01 01:44, str4d wrote: > On 27/04/16 22:31, grarpamp wrote: >> On 4/25/16, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: >>> On 22 Apr 2016, at 17:03, grarpamp wrote: FYI: The onioncat folks are interested in collaborating with tor folks regarding prop224. https://gitweb

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-05-21 Thread str4d
On 20/05/16 18:23, grarpamp wrote: > On 4/30/16, str4d wrote: >> On 27/04/16 22:31, grarpamp wrote: >>> I think there are a nontrivial number of users interested in, and >>> using, non-strictly-TCP transport over an IPv6 tunnel interface. >>> For example, look at users of CJDNS... >>> >>> For whic

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-05-19 Thread grarpamp
On 4/30/16, str4d wrote: > On 27/04/16 22:31, grarpamp wrote: >> Yep :) And I know Bernhard was hoping to get in touch with Roger >> on this before long. >> >> Basically, prop224 HS being wider than 80 bits will break onioncat's >> current HS onion <---> IPv6 addressing mechanism. >> >> They're lo

Re: [tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-05-01 Thread str4d
On 27/04/16 22:31, grarpamp wrote: > On 4/25/16, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: >> >>> On 22 Apr 2016, at 17:03, grarpamp wrote: >>> >>> FYI: The onioncat folks are interested in collaborating >>> with tor folks regarding prop224. >>> >>> https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/proposals/2

[tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224

2016-04-27 Thread grarpamp
On 4/25/16, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: > >> On 22 Apr 2016, at 17:03, grarpamp wrote: >> >> FYI: The onioncat folks are interested in collaborating >> with tor folks regarding prop224. >> >> https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/proposals/224-rend-spec-ng.txt > > I'm interested in wh

[tor-dev] Onioncat and Prop224 (was Re: [tor-onions] Hidden datagram service)

2016-04-25 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 22 Apr 2016, at 17:03, grarpamp wrote: > ... > > https://www.onioncat.org/ > https://www.cypherpunk.at/onioncat_trac/ > > FYI: The onioncat folks are interested in collaborating > with tor folks regarding prop224. > > https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/proposals/224-rend-spec-