Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-12-04 Thread Michael Rogers
On 26/11/2018 21:46, Nick Mathewson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM Michael Rogers > wrote: >> >> On 20/11/2018 19:28, Nick Mathewson wrote: >>> Hi! I don't know if this will be useful or not, but I'm wondering if >>> you've seen this ticket: >>> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/t

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-28 Thread teor
> On 27 Nov 2018, at 07:46, Nick Mathewson wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM Michael Rogers > wrote: >> >> On 20/11/2018 19:28, Nick Mathewson wrote: >>> Hi! I don't know if this will be useful or not, but I'm wondering if >>> you've seen this ticket: >>> https://trac.torproject.or

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-27 Thread Torsten Grote
On 11/27/18 3:01 PM, Nick Mathewson wrote: > I bet we could squeeze it in before the feature freeze for 0.4.0.x. On Android you still can (who knows for how long) mark your app as running in the foreground. This prevents it from getting killed and is what Briar is doing. It would therefore benefit

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-27 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:04 AM Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [...] > I think dormant mode sounds like it goes a long way towards making Tor > operate the way that Android and iOS apps are expected to. The last > missing piece towards making tor daemon behave like native service on > those platf

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Nick Mathewson: > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:38 PM Michael Rogers > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> It's great to see that some children of #25500 have already been >> released in the 0.3.4 series. Can I ask about the longer-term plan for >> this work, and whether #23289 (or something similar) is part

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-26 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM Michael Rogers wrote: > > On 20/11/2018 19:28, Nick Mathewson wrote: > > Hi! I don't know if this will be useful or not, but I'm wondering if > > you've seen this ticket: > > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/28335 > > > > The goal of this branch is

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-21 Thread Michael Rogers
On 20/11/2018 19:28, Nick Mathewson wrote: > Hi! I don't know if this will be useful or not, but I'm wondering if > you've seen this ticket: > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/28335 > > The goal of this branch is to create a "dormant mode" where Tor does > not run any but the mos

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-20 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:38 PM Michael Rogers wrote: > > Hi all, > > It's great to see that some children of #25500 have already been > released in the 0.3.4 series. Can I ask about the longer-term plan for > this work, and whether #23289 (or something similar) is part of it? > > The context for

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-12 Thread Michael Rogers
On 07/11/2018 09:04, teor wrote: > > >> On 7 Nov 2018, at 04:10, Michael Rogers wrote: >> >> On 06/11/2018 01:58, Roger Dingledine wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 11:38:33AM +1000, teor wrote: > so if we could ask the guard for > regular keepalives, we might be able to promise that th

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-07 Thread teor
> On 7 Nov 2018, at 04:10, Michael Rogers wrote: > > On 06/11/2018 01:58, Roger Dingledine wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 11:38:33AM +1000, teor wrote: so if we could ask the guard for regular keepalives, we might be able to promise that the CPU will wake once every keepalive

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-06 Thread Michael Rogers
On 06/11/2018 01:58, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 11:38:33AM +1000, teor wrote: >>> so if we could ask the guard for >>> regular keepalives, we might be able to promise that the CPU will wake >>> once every keepalive interval, unless the guard connection's lost, in >>> which c

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-05 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 11:38:33AM +1000, teor wrote: > > so if we could ask the guard for > > regular keepalives, we might be able to promise that the CPU will wake > > once every keepalive interval, unless the guard connection's lost, in > > which case it will wake once every 15 minutes. But kee

Re: [tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-05 Thread teor
> On 6 Nov 2018, at 03:38, Michael Rogers wrote: > > One of the difficulties with this option is that under some conditions, > the controller can only schedule one alarm every 15 minutes. Traffic > from the guard would also wake the CPU, so if we could ask the guard for > regular keepalives, we

[tor-dev] Dealing with frequent suspends on Android

2018-11-05 Thread Michael Rogers
Hi all, It's great to see that some children of #25500 have already been released in the 0.3.4 series. Can I ask about the longer-term plan for this work, and whether #23289 (or something similar) is part of it? The context for my question is that we're trying to reduce Briar's power consumption.