Re: [tor-dev] Proposal: The move to two guard nodes

2018-04-18 Thread Mike Perry
Roger Dingledine: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:15:44AM +, Mike Perry wrote: > > > To be clear, the design I've been considering here is simply allowing > > > reuse between the guard hop and the final hop, when it can't be avoided. I > > > don't mean to allow the guard (or its family) to show up

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal #291 (two guards) IRC meeting Wed Apr 18, 17:00 UTC

2018-04-18 Thread Mike Perry
Mike Perry: > Heyo. > > We're going to have a meeting to discuss Proposal 291. See this thread: > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2018-April/013053.html Ok, we had this meeting. High level (ammended) action items are: 1. Use patches in https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/tick

[tor-dev] [release] [protocol] Onionoo 6.0-1.13.0 and metrics-lib 2.3.0

2018-04-18 Thread iwakeh
Hi there! Two new releases are available at: https://dist.torproject.org/onionoo/6.0-1.13.0/ https://dist.torproject.org/metrics-lib/2.3.0/ This Onionoo release provides the announced major version change to 6.0 Protocol change (also summarized in [0], [1]): Change the "exit_addresses"

Re: [tor-dev] HS desc replay protection and ed25519 malleability

2018-04-18 Thread Taylor R Campbell
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:53:59 +0300 > From: George Kadianakis > > In this case, we can't use S as the replay cache index since the > attacker can mutate it and still get the sig to verify. Can we use R as > the replay cache index then? Can an attacker given (R,S) find (R',S') > such that the

Re: [tor-dev] HS desc replay protection and ed25519 malleability

2018-04-18 Thread Ian Goldberg
[Warning: recovering from illness. Brain may not be operating at nominal capacity. :-p ] On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:53:59PM +0300, George Kadianakis wrote: > Thanks for the help! > > Hmm, so everyone gets a shot at a single malleability "attack" with > everye d25519 sig? What's the point of the

Re: [tor-dev] HS desc replay protection and ed25519 malleability

2018-04-18 Thread George Kadianakis
Watson Ladd writes: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 6:15 AM, George Kadianakis > wrote: >> Hello Ian, isis, and other crypto people around here! >> >> Here is an intro: In HSv3 we've been using revision counters >> (integers++) to do HS desc replay protection, so that bad HSDirs cannot >> replay old

Re: [tor-dev] HS desc replay protection and ed25519 malleability

2018-04-18 Thread Watson Ladd
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 6:15 AM, George Kadianakis wrote: > Hello Ian, isis, and other crypto people around here! > > Here is an intro: In HSv3 we've been using revision counters > (integers++) to do HS desc replay protection, so that bad HSDirs cannot > replay old descs to other HSDirs. We recent

[tor-dev] HS desc replay protection and ed25519 malleability

2018-04-18 Thread George Kadianakis
Hello Ian, isis, and other crypto people around here! Here is an intro: In HSv3 we've been using revision counters (integers++) to do HS desc replay protection, so that bad HSDirs cannot replay old descs to other HSDirs. We recently learned that this is a bad idea from a scalability prespective (m

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal: The move to two guard nodes

2018-04-18 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:15:44AM +, Mike Perry wrote: > > To be clear, the design I've been considering here is simply allowing > > reuse between the guard hop and the final hop, when it can't be avoided. I > > don't mean to allow the guard (or its family) to show up as all four > > hops in t