Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

> On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Florentin Rochet > wrote: > > Hello, > > > On 2018-03-07 14:31, Aaron Johnson wrote: >> Hello friends, >> >>> 1) The cost of IPs vs. bandwidth is definitely a function of market >>> offers. Your $500/Gbps/month seems quite expensive compared to what >>> can be f

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

Hello Florentin Rochet wrote: > Hello, > > > On 2018-03-07 14:31, Aaron Johnson wrote: >> Hello friends, >> >>> 1) The cost of IPs vs. bandwidth is definitely a function of market >>> offers. Your $500/Gbps/month seems quite expensive compared to what >>> can be found on OVH (which is hosting a

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

Hi Rob, Thank you for your comments! On 07/03/18 18:34, Rob Jansen wrote: > Hi Florentin, > > I've added some comments below. > > Overall, I think a useful discussion for the community to have is to discuss > whether or not we think Waterfilling is even a good idea in the first place, > before

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

Hello, On 2018-03-07 14:31, Aaron Johnson wrote: > Hello friends, > >> 1) The cost of IPs vs. bandwidth is definitely a function of market >> offers. Your $500/Gbps/month seems quite expensive compared to what >> can be found on OVH (which is hosting a large number of relays): they >> ask ~3 euro

Re: [tor-dev] Consensus-health single-relay data

Tom Ritter: > teor suggested the other day that it'd be really useful to be able to > see the vote data for a single relay; great to see this is being worked on - thanks for that! Previously we also mentioned this feature in the context of onionoo, but processing votes is not something onionoo

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

Sorry, that link should have been >. Best, Aaron > On Mar 7, 2018, at 4:18 PM, A. Johnson wrote: > > OVH and OVH resellers do seem to have some insane prices. > > On the other end, the waterfi

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

OVH and OVH resellers do seem to have some insane prices. On the other end, the waterfilling assumption we were working off of was a water level of 10Mbps. A server that can sustain that seems quite cheap. In fact, a quick Google search for “cheap vps” yielded this offer of a VPS with one IPv4

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

Aaron Johnson wrote: > Currently on OVH the best I could find for hosting just now was > $93.02/per month for 250Mbps unlimited > (https://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/hosting/1801host01.xml). https://www.ovh.com/world/discover/poland.xml $49.99/per month, 500 Mbps bandwidth (burst 1 Gbps )

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

> On 7 Mar 2018, at 18:34, Rob Jansen wrote: > > It is far more expensive to obtain *continuous*, i.e., *sustained* bandwidth > usage over time. Generally, it's cheaper to buy in bulk. In the US, the > cheapest bandwidth service we found (that also allows us to run Tor relays) > was one that

Re: [tor-dev] Consensus-health single-relay data

> On 7 Mar 2018, at 18:22, Tom Ritter wrote: > > teor suggested the other day that it'd be really useful to be able to > see the vote data for a single relay; since the _entire_ detailed page > is huge and unwieldy. > > I've been pondering how I could support this without complicating the > ser

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

> On Mar 7, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Rob Jansen wrote: > > Hi Florentin, > > I've added some comments below. (I just found out that Aaron responded to your reply this morning, but I didn't get that email (it probably got stuck somewhere in the NRL email filters). Sorry if I made any points that w

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

Hi Florentin, I've added some comments below. Overall, I think a useful discussion for the community to have is to discuss whether or not we think Waterfilling is even a good idea in the first place, before you go ahead and do a bunch of work writing and fixing a proposal that may just end up

[tor-dev] Consensus-health single-relay data

teor suggested the other day that it'd be really useful to be able to see the vote data for a single relay; since the _entire_ detailed page is huge and unwieldy. I've been pondering how I could support this without complicating the server, which results in a few constraints: a) I really don't wan

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

>> 1) The cost of IPs vs. bandwidth is definitely a function of market offers. >> Your $500/Gbps/month seems quite expensive compared to what can be found on >> OVH (which is hosting a large number of relays): they ask ~3 euros/IP/month, >> including unlimited 100 Mbps traffic. If we assume that

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

Hello friends, > 1) The cost of IPs vs. bandwidth is definitely a function of market offers. > Your $500/Gbps/month seems quite expensive compared to what can be found on > OVH (which is hosting a large number of relays): they ask ~3 euros/IP/month, > including unlimited 100 Mbps traffic. If we

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal Waterfilling

Hi Aaron, Thanks for your comments, you are definitely touching interesting aspects. Here are thoughts regarding your objections: 1) The cost of IPs vs. bandwidth is definitely a function of market offers. Your $500/Gbps/month seems quite expensive compared to what can be found on OVH (which