Re: [tor-dev] How many exits exit from an IP address different than their OR address? (10.7%)

2016-01-13 Thread Virgil Griffith
In our quantifications of relay diversity, knowing the IP addresses that traffic exits from is important. Ways to have this information correctly reported would be very helpful. -V On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 at 03:01 grarpamp wrote: > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:27 AM, coderman wrote: > >>> ... only que

Re: [tor-dev] Revisiting Proposal 246: Merging Hidden Service Directories and Introduction Points

2016-01-13 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
Hi, I also have concerns about proposal 246, I don't think its benefits are compelling compared with the number of drawbacks. If we do want to skip the introduction point, proposal 252 (single onion services) provides a way for onion services to do this on an opt-in basis. (However, it doesn't

[tor-dev] txtorcon: ipaddress instead of ipaddr?

2016-01-13 Thread meejah
Regarding https://github.com/meejah/txtorcon/pull/155 does anyone have a good reason not to move txtorcon to using "ipaddress" -- this is a built-in library on Python3, with backports to Python2. Thanks, meejah ___ tor-dev mailing list tor-dev@lists.tor

Re: [tor-dev] Revisiting Proposal 246: Merging Hidden Service Directories and Introduction Points

2016-01-13 Thread s7r
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello, I am not a big fan of prop 246. I don't have a mindblowing counter argument that it's bad in some way, but I don't like the tradeoffs vs benefits ratio so much. It is a small performance improvement indeed, so clients will not cache descripto

Re: [tor-dev] Comparing Stem, metrics-lib, and zoossh

2016-01-13 Thread Philipp Winter
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 05:47:03PM +0100, Karsten Loesing wrote: > Do the Zoossh results there look plausible? I'm surprised that descriptor parsing is so slow, but I think the results are plausible, yes. I should look into it. Thanks, Philipp ___ tor-

Re: [tor-dev] Comparing Stem, metrics-lib, and zoossh

2016-01-13 Thread Damian Johnson
> This was Stem commit c01a9cda4e7699c7f4bd642c8e81ed45aab7a29b and > Python version 2.7.10. Great, thanks! Also what was the metrics-lib and zoossh commits? > Or should we add these performance tests for metrics-lib, Stem, and > Zoossh to their own repository that also comes with scripts to fetc

Re: [tor-dev] How many exits exit from an IP address different than their OR address? (10.7%)

2016-01-13 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:27 AM, coderman wrote: >>> ... only question is who would have a >>> compelling use for separating outbound OR connections and outbound >>> Exit traffic, as per #17975? >> >> Bandwidth peering contracts preferential to push or eyeball traffic. > outbound bind address. Ex

Re: [tor-dev] Comparing Stem, metrics-lib, and zoossh

2016-01-13 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/01/16 17:19, Damian Johnson wrote: > Thanks! Yup, those results look reasonable. I was expecting a > smaller delta with server/extrainfo descriptors and larger one > with microdescriptors due to the lazy loading but oh well. What > stem commit an

Re: [tor-dev] Fwd: Orbot roadmap feedback

2016-01-13 Thread Michael Rogers
On 13/01/16 16:04, Nathan Freitas wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Michael Rogers wrote: >> On 12/01/16 16:16, Nathan Freitas wrote: >>> The broader idea is to determine which Tor torrc settings are relevant >>> to the mobile environment, and that could use a more intuitive user >>> inte

[tor-dev] Revisiting Proposal 246: Merging Hidden Service Directories and Introduction Points

2016-01-13 Thread George Kadianakis
Hello there, we recently finished implementing proposal 250 which is one of the first steps for the upcoming hidden service redesign [1]. The next steps are implementing proposal 224 and the other performance and security proposals [2]. On this note, one of the open design issues that we need to

Re: [tor-dev] Comparing Stem, metrics-lib, and zoossh

2016-01-13 Thread Karsten Loesing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/01/16 16:28, Philipp Winter wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 09:40:35AM +0100, Karsten Loesing wrote: >> Philipp, would you be able to write the Zoossh counterpart for >> the descriptor types supported by it? > > I attached a small tool that sho

Re: [tor-dev] Fwd: Orbot roadmap feedback

2016-01-13 Thread Nathan Freitas
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Michael Rogers wrote: > On 12/01/16 16:16, Nathan Freitas wrote: > > The broader idea is to determine which Tor torrc settings are relevant > > to the mobile environment, and that could use a more intuitive user > > interface than the empty text input we currently

Re: [tor-dev] Comparing Stem, metrics-lib, and zoossh

2016-01-13 Thread Philipp Winter
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 09:40:35AM +0100, Karsten Loesing wrote: > Philipp, would you be able to write the Zoossh counterpart for the > descriptor types supported by it? I attached a small tool that should do the same thing Damian's script does for consensuses and server descriptors. Note, howeve

Re: [tor-dev] How many exits exit from an IP address different than their OR address? (10.7%)

2016-01-13 Thread coderman
On 1/13/16, grarpamp wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:58 AM, coderman wrote: >> ... only question is who would have a >> compelling use for separating outbound OR connections and outbound >> Exit traffic, as per #17975? > > Bandwidth peering contracts preferential to push or eyeball traffic.

Re: [tor-dev] Needs Code Review: Shared Randomness Generation for Tor

2016-01-13 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 13 Jan 2016, at 20:02, David Goulet wrote: > > On 13 Jan (11:34:05), Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: >> >>> On 13 Jan 2016, at 01:46, George Kadianakis wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> For what it's worth, we expect this code to run for a long time before the >>> shared random values generated by t

Re: [tor-dev] Needs Code Review: Shared Randomness Generation for Tor

2016-01-13 Thread David Goulet
On 13 Jan (11:34:05), Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: > > > On 13 Jan 2016, at 01:46, George Kadianakis wrote: > > > > Hello there, > > > > we are happy to tell you that we finished coding proposal 250 and our first > > attempt at implementation is ready for review. > > > > You can find the fin

Re: [tor-dev] How many exits exit from an IP address different than their OR address? (10.7%)

2016-01-13 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 9:58 AM, coderman wrote: > this is the proper situation. only question is who would have a > compelling use for separating outbound OR connections and outbound > Exit traffic, as per #17975? Bandwidth peering contracts preferential to push or eyeball traffic. _