Re: [tor-dev] Proposal: Merging Hidden Service Directories and Introduction Points

2015-07-23 Thread isis
Aaron Johnson transcribed 2.1K bytes: > > > That seems easy to fix. Make the number of Introduction Points the same > > > as it was before and make them be selected in a bandwidth-weight > > > way. There is no cost to this. You need IPs to be online, and so > > > whatever number was used in the pas

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Yawning Angel
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:46:26 + Jacob Appelbaum wrote: [snip] > > Do users know that their router's implementation of NAT-PMP/uPnP is > > shit? > > Who knows better than the user? And who better than the user to take > an action and to learn it? At this point with all the resources available

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 7/23/15, Yawning Angel wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 19:18:34 + > Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > >> Why are we avoiding allowing users to make this choice because of the >> above reasons? If a user wants to run a relay or a bridge, we should >> make it easy. We don't answer the above questions wh

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Артур Истомин
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:38:00AM -0400, Nick Mathewson wrote: > Yawning's mail below reminds me: I am considering removing the C > implementation of tor-fw-helper from the tor distribution, and recommending > Yawning's pure-Go implementation instead. But before I do this, I'd like > to get some

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Yawning Angel
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:50:29 -0700 David Stainton wrote: > >> But we have a gigantic userbase, and playing "consumer router > >> support technician" for all of the ones that ship with broken > >> uPnP/NAT-PMP implementations does not fill me with warm fuzzy > >> feelings. > > > > I think this is

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Yawning Angel
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 19:18:34 + Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > Why are we avoiding allowing users to make this choice because of the > above reasons? If a user wants to run a relay or a bridge, we should > make it easy. We don't answer the above questions when it is hard - > are we really off the ho

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread David Stainton
> Why are we avoiding allowing users to make this choice because of the > above reasons? If a user wants to run a relay or a bridge, we should > make it easy. We don't answer the above questions when it is hard - > are we really off the hook there? It just seems ridiculous. Obviously NAT has destr

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 7/23/15, Yawning Angel wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:26:33 + > Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > >> >> Also - does this mean that after many many years... that this new >> >> version of tor-fw-helper be enabled by default at build time? >> >> Pretty please? :-) >> > >> > Unlikely, AFAIK the gener

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Yawning Angel
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:26:33 + Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > >> Also - does this mean that after many many years... that this new > >> version of tor-fw-helper be enabled by default at build time? > >> Pretty please? :-) > > > > Unlikely, AFAIK the general plan was to have it as a separate > > pac

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread l.m
It's probably for the best. The implementation of upnp and nat-pmp is frequently done incorrectly. Many implementations simply break the fw security or leak identifying information by enabling the feature. I once saw a case which opened port 0 everytime upnp was used. Not closed, or stealth, but op

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
>> Also - does this mean that after many many years... that this new >> version of tor-fw-helper be enabled by default at build time? Pretty >> please? :-) > > Unlikely, AFAIK the general plan was to have it as a separate package. > That is really a major bummer if so - we should be shipping this

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Yawning Angel
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:54:33 + Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > On 7/21/15, Nick Mathewson wrote: > > Yawning's mail below reminds me: I am considering removing the C > > implementation of tor-fw-helper from the tor distribution, and > > recommending Yawning's pure-Go implementation instead. But be

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 7/21/15, Nick Mathewson wrote: > Yawning's mail below reminds me: I am considering removing the C > implementation of tor-fw-helper from the tor distribution, and recommending > Yawning's pure-Go implementation instead. But before I do this, I'd like > to get some sense of whether folks are sh

[tor-dev] Proposal 249: Allow CREATE cells with >505 bytes of handshake data

2015-07-23 Thread Nick Mathewson
Filename: 249-large-create-cells.txt Title: Allow CREATE cells with >505 bytes of handshake data Authors: Nick Mathewson Created: 23 July 15 Status: Draft 1. Summary There have been multiple proposals over the last year or so for adding post-quantum cryptography to Tor's circuit extension

Re: [tor-dev] Is anyone using tor-fw-helper? (Was Re: BOINC-based Tor wrapper)

2015-07-23 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Yawning Angel wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:38:00 -0400 > Nick Mathewson wrote: > >> Yawning's mail below reminds me: I am considering removing the C >> implementation of tor-fw-helper from the tor distribution, and >> recommending Yawning's pure-Go implementat

Re: [tor-dev] [Patch] or/config.c for MSVC

2015-07-23 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Gisle Vanem wrote: > Nick Mathewson wrote: > >> I made the changes conditional on not having GCC, since the GCC syntax >> >> will work with older versions of GCC. (Somebody should check whether >> we care about those versions.) > > Thanks for the info! > I saw

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