Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread isis
Andrew Lewman transcribed 1.8K bytes: > The last research paper I see directly addressing scalability is Torsk > (http://www.freehaven.net/anonbib/bibtex.html#ccs09-torsk) or PIR-Tor > (http://www.freehaven.net/anonbib/bibtex.html#usenix11-pirtor) Using Private Information Retrieval (PIR) to retr

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread AFO-Admin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 if we would get multithread support, this would boost the bandwith that is avaible, there i'm sure. All my relays run in CPU limit because i don't think wasting even more ipv4 addresses is great, today you get more and more cpu cores that is not lini

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread Nikita Borisov
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > You're missing the point. It would be trivial for a multibillion dollar > organization to sybil attack Tor if you add excessive restrictions. If you look at the numbers isis posted, all relays below the median contribute less than 3% of the o

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread Thomas White
It would be trivial for a multimillion dollar organisation to sybil attack Tor even as it stands right now. On 30/09/2014 01:12, Ryan Carboni wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:36 PM, isis wrote: > >> Ryan Carboni transcribed 1.1K bytes: >>> There's one issue if you remove all the small relays,

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread Ryan Carboni
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:36 PM, isis wrote: > Ryan Carboni transcribed 1.1K bytes: > > There's one issue if you remove all the small relays, only relays run by > > the NSA will be around. Not many people have access to multi-megabit > upload > > speeds. And those that do might also be using bitt

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread isis
Ryan Carboni transcribed 1.1K bytes: > There's one issue if you remove all the small relays, only relays run by > the NSA will be around. Not many people have access to multi-megabit upload > speeds. And those that do might also be using bittorrent. I'm quite certain that I'm definitely not the NS

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread isis
isis transcribed 14K bytes: > [...] Oopsie daisies. Forgot my footnotes and references! Voilá: [0]: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-relay-debian.html.en [1]: https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth.html?graph=dirbytes&start=2014-06-27&end=2014-09-25#dirbytes [2]: https://metrics.torproject

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread isis
Griffin Boyce transcribed 2.7K bytes: > I'd say that the idea to 'downgrade' people into being bridges is a good > one, if done without requiring user input. 'Everyone run a relay' might > only be useful because so many of the people we say it to have fast > connections. It seems reasonable to

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread isis
Mike Perry transcribed 9.3K bytes: > Andrew Lewman: > > I had a conversation with a vendor yesterday. They are > > interested in including Tor as their "private browsing mode" and > > basically shipping a re-branded tor browser which lets people toggle the > > connectivity to the Tor network on and

[tor-dev] Reminder: weekly Tor development meeting (Wed), and weekly patch workshop (Tue)

2014-09-29 Thread Nick Mathewson
Hi, all! You probably know that we do our regular meetings for tor (the program) development on Wednesdays at 1330 UTC on the #tor-dev IRC channel on irc.oftc.net. But did you know everybody who's interested in doing anything with tor is welcome to attend? And did you know that anybody who's inte

Re: [tor-dev] [tor-relays] [warn] No unused circIDs found on channel without wide circID support

2014-09-29 Thread ra
reply-to: tor-dev On Monday 29 September 2014 15:00:29 tor-admin wrote: > since upgrading torland to 0.2.5.8-rc I see the below warnings. Is this > something to worry about? IMHO this might be due to a programming error in the circuit ID selection code or possibly indicate a DoS attack. >

Re: [tor-dev] Scaling tor for a global population

2014-09-29 Thread Griffin Boyce
I'd say that the idea to 'downgrade' people into being bridges is a good one, if done without requiring user input. 'Everyone run a relay' might only be useful because so many of the people we say it to have fast connections. It seems reasonable to filter out persistently low connections (a