Re: [tor-dev] Does TLS round-trip optimization apply do Tor?

2013-12-24 Thread Yawning Angel
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:38:37 -0500 Tom Ritter wrote: > AFAIK Optimizations that reduce round trips, including that one, are > very desirable for websites accessed over Tor. The communication with > a website uses TCP, SSL, and HTTP as normal, TCP acks, etc are still > needed and transported over

Re: [tor-dev] Does TLS round-trip optimization apply do Tor?

2013-12-24 Thread Zack Weinberg
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Benedikt Gollatz wrote: > Tor uses TLS only for node-to-node transport encryption. Any > improvements to Tor's TLS behaviour would therefore only result in > occasionally faster circuit building times. This may be nice to have, > but because Tor builds circuits pre

Re: [tor-dev] Does TLS round-trip optimization apply do Tor?

2013-12-24 Thread Tom Ritter
AFAIK Optimizations that reduce round trips, including that one, are very desirable for websites accessed over Tor. The communication with a website uses TCP, SSL, and HTTP as normal, TCP acks, etc are still needed and transported over SOCKS. So optimizations there will reduce time to first byte fo

Re: [tor-dev] [Question to sysadmins and HS operators:] How should Hidden Services scale?

2013-12-24 Thread George Kadianakis
As some people said, another aspect of this project is increasing the 'availability' of hidden services. That is, increasing the number of nodes of a Hidden Service so that even if one is down, the rest can still handle clients. This is not something that application-layer solutions like HAProxy c

Re: [tor-dev] Does TLS round-trip optimization apply do Tor?

2013-12-24 Thread Benedikt Gollatz
> http://www.igvita.com/2013/12/16/optimizing-nginx-tls-time-to-first-byte > > I've been thinking whenever that kind of optimization does apply also to > Tor or not? Tor uses TLS only for node-to-node transport encryption. Any improvements to Tor's TLS behaviour would therefore only result in occ

Re: [tor-dev] bridgdb automation

2013-12-24 Thread Nicolas Vigier
Hi Matthew and Isis, On Sun, 22 Dec 2013, isis agora lovecruft wrote: > > > > If proper packaging is helpful for Jenkins, however, I can easily do so. > > > > > > An idea could be to have a Debian package for bridgedb, and make Jenkins > > > update the packages in a repository automatically when

[tor-dev] Review of Proposal 177: Abstaining from votes on individual flags (was: Tor proposal status (December 2013))

2013-12-24 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 12/17/13 10:31 PM, Nick Mathewson wrote: > 177 Abstaining from votes on individual flags > > Here's my proposal for letting authorities have opinions about some > (flag,router) combinations without voting on whether _every_ router > should have that flag. It's simple, and I thi

[tor-dev] Review of Proposal 147: Eliminate the need for v2 directories in generating v3 directories (was: Tor proposal status (December 2013))

2013-12-24 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 12/17/13 10:31 PM, Nick Mathewson wrote: > 147 Eliminate the need for v2 directories in generating v3 directories > > This proposal explains a way that we can phase out the > vestigial use of v2 directory documents in keeping authorities > well-informed enough to generating the

[tor-dev] Does TLS round-trip optimization apply do Tor?

2013-12-24 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
Hi, i've been reading the article "Optimizing NGIX TLS time for first byte" below: http://www.igvita.com/2013/12/16/optimizing-nginx-tls-time-to-first-byte I've been thinking whenever that kind of optimization does apply also to Tor or not? -- Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) HERMES - Center for Transp