Re: [tor-dev] Torperf implementation considerations (was: Torperf)

2013-09-17 Thread Kevin Butler
> Executing scripts and reading stdout/stderr is probably too low-level. > I think we need a Python/Twisted (or whatever language Torperf will be > written in) interface for running an experiment and retrieving results. > > You're probably right on stdout/err being too low level, but most experimen

Re: [tor-dev] OnionMail First Test

2013-09-17 Thread Liste
Leo Unglaub ha scritto: > Hey, > > On 2013-09-17 03:51, Liste wrote: > >> Work complete for the version 0.0.0Beta >> >> http://anopticon.ws/13c03c09/OnionMail-0.0.0.B.zip >> > > please can you upload the source code as well, because no one is going > to execute a .jar file without knowing t

Re: [tor-dev] OnionMail First Test

2013-09-17 Thread Leo Unglaub
Hey, On 2013-09-17 03:51, Liste wrote: > Work complete for the version 0.0.0Beta > > http://anopticon.ws/13c03c09/OnionMail-0.0.0.B.zip please can you upload the source code as well, because no one is going to execute a .jar file without knowing the program code. Thanks and greetings Leo -- L

[tor-dev] Liberte-Linux cable-communication

2013-09-17 Thread josef . winger
Was there a discussion about the 'cables-communication' approach from Liberte-Linux in the mailing list? What's the general oppinion here? Is it trustable/secure/relyable? best /jo ___ tor-dev mailing list tor-dev@lists.torproject.org https://lists.tor

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-17 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:53:15AM +0200, Karsten Loesing wrote: > Here are the three graphs just for September, all ending on the > same day: > > https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=direct-users&start=2013-09-01&end=2013-09-13&country=all&events=off#direct-users > > https://metrics.t

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-17 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/17/13 6:25 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:53:15AM +0200, Karsten Loesing wrote: >> Here are the three graphs just for September, all ending on the >> same day: >> >> https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=direct-users&start=2013-09-01&end=2013-09-13&country=a

Re: [tor-dev] Torperf implementation considerations (was: Torperf)

2013-09-17 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/17/13 3:33 AM, Kevin Butler wrote: > [cc tor-dev] > > On 16 September 2013 09:47, Karsten Loesing wrote: > >> Hmm, I don't think the HTTP client/server part is the right interface to >> write another client and server and call it Torperf compatible. The >> Torperf data API would be a bette

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-17 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/17/13 12:02 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 08:28:21PM +0200, Karsten Loesing wrote: >> Here's the plan: >> >> - Compute user numbers for 2012 and before; the current numbers start >> on January 1, 2013. This is going to take at least until September 23. > > Sounds goo

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-17 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/17/13 8:38 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:02:14PM -0400, Roger Dingledine wrote: >> I think it would be good to write a paragraph or two to answer Matthew's >> question -- why are these new numbers different, and what makes us think >> they're better? > > Speaking of

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-17 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/16/13 11:07 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: > On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:28:21 +0200 > Karsten Loesing wrote: > >> Why do I tell you this? >> >> Because the old approach uses resources on our poor, already >> overloaded metrics machine, and I'm planning to shut down the old >> approach in the very near

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-17 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/16/13 10:55 PM, Matthew Finkel wrote: > Awesome work with these metrics. I am curious, however, why the new > metrics are more correct than the old ones. The graphs are definitely > smoother and including the requests to the Dir Auths seems correct, > but are there other specific reasons for t

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-17 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/16/13 8:36 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote: > I would actually really appreciate the old numbers (from ~2007-8/2013) > being kept online. Estimating growth over time and mapping spikes is > kind of a big deal to me. =) I see. How about I put the CSV files for direct and bridge users, estimated wi

Re: [tor-dev] Retiring old user number estimates

2013-09-17 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:02:14PM -0400, Roger Dingledine wrote: > I think it would be good to write a paragraph or two to answer Matthew's > question -- why are these new numbers different, and what makes us think > they're better? Speaking of which: https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html#dir