Re: [tor-dev] Tor Relay Setup Wizard

2011-07-13 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 7/14/11 5:52 AM, Damian Johnson wrote: >> In that case, >> setting "Internal Relay" as the default could be problematic. If people >> use arm on their clients, they shouldn't be tricked into becoming a >> relay only because that's the default. They should know what they're >> doing when settin

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Relay Setup Wizard

2011-07-13 Thread Damian Johnson
> I'd suggest sticking with the name 'Non-exit' relay rather than making up > a new term ('Internal Relay') that nobody else uses. Unless you want to > convince everybody that non-exit relay is a bad name and we should switch? Sebastian had the same concern. We adopted the term "exit" and "non-exi

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Relay Setup Wizard

2011-07-13 Thread Damian Johnson
Thanks, Karsten! > Or does this wizard start automatically when arm starts? If tor is installed but not currently running on the control port then arm starts the wizard. > In that case, > setting "Internal Relay" as the default could be problematic. If people > use arm on their clients, they sh

Re: [tor-dev] Improving Private Browsing Mode/Tor Browser

2011-07-13 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Georg Koppen (g.kop...@jondos.de): > >> That is definitely a good approach. But maybe there is research to be > >> done here as well. Just a rough (and in part research) idea that I had > >> in mind while asking you the question above: What about if we first > >> started looking at diff

Re: [tor-dev] New Paper: Cloud-based Onion Routing

2011-07-13 Thread Brandon Wiley
Cool stuff. I like how the system can be automated and self-funding. With regards to bootstrapping, giving out one node at a time is not a useful defense because requests can be parallelized. [1] Moving nodes is similarly useless because the attacker can continually map the network using free para

Re: [tor-dev] New Paper: Cloud-based Onion Routing

2011-07-13 Thread Nick Jones
On Wednesday, July 13, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Aaron wrote: > I have a few questions > > Q1: Regarding network bootstrap protocol: Consider the scenario where > a censor mines the boostrap node list and blocks these nodes. Do you > implement any mechanisms to prevent a censor from obtaining the entire

Re: [tor-dev] New Paper: Cloud-based Onion Routing

2011-07-13 Thread Aaron
I have a few questions Q1: Regarding network bootstrap protocol: Consider the scenario where a censor mines the boostrap node list and blocks these nodes. Do you implement any mechanisms to prevent a censor from obtaining the entire set of bootstrap nodes? Similarly, aren't public directory server

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Relay Setup Wizard

2011-07-13 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:01:18AM -0700, Damian Johnson wrote: > 1. Selection for what you'd like to be > http://www.atagar.com/transfer/tmp/arm_wizard1.png I'd suggest sticking with the name 'Non-exit' relay rather than making up a new term ('Internal Relay') that nobody else uses. Unless you wa

Re: [tor-dev] Tor Relay Setup Wizard

2011-07-13 Thread Karsten Loesing
Hi Damian, On 7/13/11 7:01 PM, Damian Johnson wrote: > Hi all. Over the last few weeks I've been working on a relay setup > wizard for arm. Its purpose is to make volunteering to be a relay > easy, narrowing the options to those most commonly used and giving > nice descriptions/defaults to encoura

[tor-dev] New Paper: Cloud-based Onion Routing

2011-07-13 Thread Nick Jones
Hi All, I'm a graduate student at Princeton, and our research group has recently submitted a paper proposing a design for cloud based onion routing. The goal of our research is to securely perform onion routing on cloud based infrastructure (like Amazon EC2 and Rackspace) while allowing users

[tor-dev] Tor Relay Setup Wizard

2011-07-13 Thread Damian Johnson
Hi all. Over the last few weeks I've been working on a relay setup wizard for arm. Its purpose is to make volunteering to be a relay easy, narrowing the options to those most commonly used and giving nice descriptions/defaults to encourage good configurations. At present relay setup for new users,