Mark Kettenis wrote:
> > I tend to agree that the complexity of this is out of scope for
> > man pages. Understanding this properly requires reading books
> > about computer architecture first.
>
> So I would phrase this as something like "device that the OpenBSD
> kernel considers removable".
> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 20:11:49 +0200
> From: Stefan Sperling
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 06:46:14PM +0100, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > pluggable?
The word "removable" is probably a better choice as this is the
language used by the ACPI and device tree standards.
> It really is a very machine-s
Stefan Sperling wrote:
> And perhaps the entire USB bus will be powered down when
> the host controller goes to sleep, and all connected devices
> will lose power.
but oh ... the situation is even more
complicated:
There are situations where a machine won't suspend because a bus has
power-draw
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 06:46:14PM +0100, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> pluggable?
It really is a very machine-specific question. It depends
on how the manufaturer decided to connect devices to the
mainboard, which is not always possible to tell from the
perspective of software which runs on the machine
Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > It is extremely complicated, there is no way to accurately explain
> > in user-speak what devices detach and what devices don't detach.
> >
>
> pluggable?
Sorry, that is completely untrue.
What kind of plug?
A USB plug?
A MMC plug?
A PCI plug?
A MINI-PCIE plug?
A doc
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:34:23AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Sol??ne Rapenne wrote:
>
> > I agree my sentence isn't good enough or is too much, but I think ZZZ
> > explanations isn't enough in its current form
>
> Maybe it is lacking. But your previous diff didn't help anyone.
>
> > from y
Solène Rapenne wrote:
> I agree my sentence isn't good enough or is too much, but I think ZZZ
> explanations isn't enough in its current form
Maybe it is lacking. But your previous diff didn't help anyone.
> from your reply I got
> information such as external devices that wasn't described in
I disagree with this sentence.
The machine is unhiberated in the same way that an unsuspend happens.
EVERYTHING is as it was before, except for one thing: Devices which are
not known to be part of the machine, will have become detached, and
if/when they reattach, configuration of them will be mis
I think this adds nothing. It already states your system will be restored to
its previous state, and so it will, as far as possible.
Actually, specifically external (USB) disks, are probably *not* properly
restored though...
/Alexander
On October 21, 2022 9:05:25 AM GMT+02:00, "Solène Rapenne"