Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Jason McIntyre just said: > i'll change it to "rotate log files". Good. As Matthew observed, files are renamed and deleted, but not trimmed. While here, i must admit i don't like the first two sentences of newsyslog(8) at all. * The text doesn't start by saying what the tool really does. * W

Re: ksh experts take a look please (tiny patch inside)

2009-11-23 Thread Philip Guenther
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, patrick keshishian > wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 09:15:17PM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote: >>> I wonder if included patch is a correct fix for the following >>> "glitch" I'm seeing with ksh in `set

Re: ksh experts take a look please (tiny patch inside)

2009-11-23 Thread Janjaap van Velthooven
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 09:11:14PM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, patrick keshishian > wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 09:15:17PM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote: > >> I wonder if included patch is a correct fix for the following > >> "glitch" I'm seeing with k

Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread Jim Razmus
* Jason McIntyre [091123 15:06]: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:55:01AM -0800, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Jason McIntyre wrote: > > > anyone else want to chip in? > > > > I think "rotate log files" is sufficiently clear. I think that's > > jargon that most sysadm

Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread Lars Nooden
Jason McIntyre wrote: > hmm. it can compress logs too - should we stick that in? (i'm joking) > the point is to make it sane. so the question is still is there a > difference between trimming logs and rotating them? and, if there is, is > it a distinction that a manual page description needs to ma

Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:55:01AM -0800, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Jason McIntyre wrote: > > anyone else want to chip in? > > I think "rotate log files" is sufficiently clear. I think that's > jargon that most sysadmins would understand, and it's also probably >

Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Jason McIntyre wrote: > anyone else want to chip in? I think "rotate log files" is sufficiently clear. I think that's jargon that most sysadmins would understand, and it's also probably the first thing people would search for. I'm not a fan of describing it as

Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:27:45PM +0100, Robert wrote: > > > > i wonder what the difference between "trim" and "rotate" is, in this > > context. and whether it's a point we need to make anyway. > > > > it could be we can get away with just "rotate log files", but i'm not > > sure. (what if someo

Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread Robert
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:12:46 +0001 Jason McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 02:16:22PM +0200, lars wrote: > > Thanks. The change can be smaller then. > > > > /Lars > > > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > >...apropos(1) only searches titles ... > > > > > > $ cvs diff -

Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 02:16:22PM +0200, lars wrote: > Thanks. The change can be smaller then. > > /Lars > > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Stuart Henderson wrote: > >...apropos(1) only searches titles ... > > > $ cvs diff -uNp newsyslog.8 > Index: newsyslog.8 >

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Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread lars
Thanks. The change can be smaller then. /Lars On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Stuart Henderson wrote: ...apropos(1) only searches titles ... $ cvs diff -uNp newsyslog.8 Index: newsyslog.8 === RCS file: /cvs/src/usr.bin/newsyslog/newsyslog

Re: phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009/11/23 13:07, lars wrote: > The phrases 'log rotation' and 'rotate logs' could be added to the > man page for newsyslog to help with search and retrieval of the right > page. > > apropos would thus find the man page for newsyslog when the terms > 'rotate', 'rotation', 'log rotation', 'rotat

phrase 'log rotation' in newsyslog.8

2009-11-23 Thread lars
The phrases 'log rotation' and 'rotate logs' could be added to the man page for newsyslog to help with search and retrieval of the right page. apropos would thus find the man page for newsyslog when the terms 'rotate', 'rotation', 'log rotation', 'rotate log', or 'rotate logs' are used. /Lar