[tcpdump-workers] format cry from the wilderness

2004-06-29 Thread Eddie Kohler
I had thought that only 'tcpdump -v' had redesigned output for common protocols, but 'tcpdump' (no -v) does too. "IP" appears before IP addresses although there was no real ambiguity before, more superfluous punctuation, case changes -- and the result isn't yet "internally consistent" since it'

Re: [tcpdump-workers] text format stability

2004-06-25 Thread Eddie Kohler
Hannes, > | I don't feel that tcpdump output should be frozen forever; some changes are > | appropriate. But the changes I've seen have seemed indiscriminate. Again, > | why put a comma after the TCP flags? Why reorder the TCP fields relative > | to one another? Why change the way 'cksum' is sp

Re: [tcpdump-workers] text format stability

2004-06-25 Thread Eddie Kohler
Despite all my whining, it is great that tcpdump is being worked on again, and I appreciate the effort that you've put into it. I just wish there was an option that would preserve the old behavior. (Or, even better, an option that would *give* the new behavior.) I think a lot of people would

Re: [tcpdump-workers] text format stability

2004-06-25 Thread Eddie Kohler
Hannes, These changes should not have been implemented globally, without some flag or option to preserve the old behavior. Such a flag should be added. > i am a believer that networking dissectors should print data in the order > they arrive ... header information comes before ip adresses, right

Re: [tcpdump-workers] text format stability

2004-06-24 Thread Eddie Kohler
On Jun 24, 2004, at 11:29 AM, Jefferson Ogata wrote: It would seem to me that the best approach would be to have a format configuration file when an entry for each dissected protocol. Local installations could tweak it however they like. That would be great -- but the default should be the old fo

Re: [tcpdump-workers] text format stability

2004-06-24 Thread Eddie Kohler
Hannes, does this break existing scripts ? most certainly: however we have not yet found out how to progress the software in terms of new protcols and multilayer encapsualation support (gre/l2tp/mpls) and still stay 100% downwards compatible; You don't need to stay 100% compatible. However, some o

[tcpdump-workers] text format stability

2004-06-23 Thread Eddie Kohler
release will change a major version number, to make the format changes more obvious to users. Thanks very much, Eddie Kohler P.S. There's a bug in the ip_finddst function that causes most IP packets with options to report incorrect TCP/UDP checksums. A bug report and patch have been

[tcpdump-workers] Web page needs updating

2004-06-22 Thread Eddie Kohler
Hi all, The www.tcpdump.org section on mailing lists needs updating -- sending mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' results in an error; it looks like the address has changed to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Eddie - This is the tcpdump-workers list. Visit https://lists.sandelman.ca/ to unsubscribe.