Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-13 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Bill, >> Without criticizing any of the existing solutions, some of the things >> that motivated my interest in this is that I think we need: something >> easily configured via plain configuration files by a sysadmin, >> something that would take a limited amount of space (including its >> depe

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-13 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Patrik Flykt wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 17:39 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> I'm sure I would like avoid that :) Hopefully we'll be able to reuse >> the dhcp client from connman, but as the work of converting that into >> a library has not

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-13 Thread Patrik Flykt
Hi, On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 17:39 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > I'm sure I would like avoid that :) Hopefully we'll be able to reuse > the dhcp client from connman, but as the work of converting that into > a library has not yet finished I don't know yet exactly how that will > work out.

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-13 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 23:19 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Hi Dan, > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > > 1) what is lacking in other userspace solutions (NetworkManager, > > ConnMan, wicked, initscripts, etc) that requires > > yet-another-network-daemon? > > Without critic

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-13 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tom Gundersen ([email protected]) said: >> Without criticizing any of the existing solutions, some of the things >> that motivated my interest in this is that I think we need: something >> easily configured via plain configuration files by a sys

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-13 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tom Gundersen ([email protected]) said: > Without criticizing any of the existing solutions, some of the things > that motivated my interest in this is that I think we need: something > easily configured via plain configuration files by a sysadmin, > something that would take a limited amount of space

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-12 Thread Holger Winkelmann [TP]
sorry for double post after bounce and the huge signature, messed up my mail client config a bit.. Holger > We asked our self the same questions, and alternatives exists even from > the embedded camp [1] which often comes close to the server use case. > Even if [1] does not have a Dbus interface,

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-12 Thread Holger Winkelmann [TP]
Hi Dan, - Original Message - > Hi, > > Having watched the discussion over the past week or so, I'm left with a > few questions: > > 1) what is lacking in other userspace solutions (NetworkManager, > ConnMan, wicked, initscripts, etc) that requires > yet-another-network-daemon? > > 2) do

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-12 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi Dan, On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > 1) what is lacking in other userspace solutions (NetworkManager, > ConnMan, wicked, initscripts, etc) that requires > yet-another-network-daemon? Without criticizing any of the existing solutions, some of the things that motivated m

[systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-12 Thread Dan Williams
Hi, Having watched the discussion over the past week or so, I'm left with a few questions: 1) what is lacking in other userspace solutions (NetworkManager, ConnMan, wicked, initscripts, etc) that requires yet-another-network-daemon? 2) do you expect that systemd-networkd will grow to include bri