Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sa, 05.09.20 09:49, Andrei Borzenkov ([email protected]) wrote: > 05.09.2020 01:05, Lennart Poettering пишет: > > > > I explained this already. DNS server data today is much less config > > than state, acquired dynamically via DHCP, hence most distros don#t > > configure it in /etc so much an

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Andrei Borzenkov
05.09.2020 01:05, Lennart Poettering пишет: > > I explained this already. DNS server data today is much less config > than state, acquired dynamically via DHCP, hence most distros don#t > configure it in /etc so much anymore, but manage it in /run (where > transient state is generally kept), and o

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Vito Caputo
Could you please stop signing mails sent to this publicly accessible, archived, and indexed/searchable mailing list with this impossible boilerplate: > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. > They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have recei

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Shravan Singh
"is automatically acquire and automatically released and automatically manage" And this is just what a timezone. "I think this discussion kinda lost its usefulness, I am just repeating myself" Ohh I knew that you narcissist Regards, Shravan Singh (239) 243-0838 Blue Sparq, Inc. 928 NE 24th Lane

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 04.09.20 18:16, Shravan Singh ([email protected]) wrote: > What constitutes a configuration? > And please read my email subject. I can't have writable /etc, mender > dosen't allow that. Well, then that's sad, and something to bring up with mender? if they do not allow local config, the

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Shravan Singh
And this is a major problem for any one running raspberry pi, NXP or any other embedded processor that uses mender and embedded linux. A machine with embedded linux running on it goes to San Francisco and then transported to Chicago. And you are saying that we shouldn't be allowed to change the tim

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Shravan Singh
What constitutes a configuration? And please read my email subject. I can't have writable /etc, mender dosen't allow that. In today's mobile computing age you really think users shouldn't change timezone? You keep saying " I for one am certainly not convinced that the timezones" but you don't expl

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 04.09.20 21:51, Dave Howorth ([email protected]) wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 21:32:19 +0200 > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Fr, 04.09.20 14:10, Shravan Singh ([email protected]) wrote: > > > > > Hello Lennart, > > > > > > Can you help me in understanding why this push was rejec

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Shravan Singh
This is the link: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/8277 Regards, Shravan Singh (239) 243-0838 Blue Sparq, Inc. 928 NE 24th Lane unit 4 and 5. Cape Coral, FL 33993 IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) on

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 04.09.20 15:54, Shravan Singh ([email protected]) wrote: > Yes, But help me understand. > I think you said that you are not convinced as to why that has to done. > > My argument is very simple shouldn't a Linux environment allow change in > timezone easily? Oh we do. But if your want c

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Dave Howorth
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 21:32:19 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fr, 04.09.20 14:10, Shravan Singh ([email protected]) wrote: > > > Hello Lennart, > > > > Can you help me in understanding why this push was rejected? > > *Make timedatectl nicely work with read-only filesystems #8277 * > > T

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Shravan Singh
Yes, But help me understand. I think you said that you are not convinced as to why that has to done. My argument is very simple shouldn't a Linux environment allow change in timezone easily? Now I am not an expert in Linux kernel development. But I see that some of the files, even though they resi

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 04.09.20 14:10, Shravan Singh ([email protected]) wrote: > Hello Lennart, > > Can you help me in understanding why this push was rejected? > *Make timedatectl nicely work with read-only filesystems #8277 * The explanation is in the PR comments. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin _

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Shravan Singh
Hello Lennart, Can you help me in understanding why this push was rejected? *Make timedatectl nicely work with read-only filesystems #8277 * If there is some major issue. I would like to take this opportunity to make it right and submit it again Regards, Shravan Singh (239) 243-0838 Blue Sparq,

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-09-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 20.08.20 14:22, Shravan Singh ([email protected]) wrote: > But no one is telling how to resolve my issue with a read-only > rootfs. There's no concept for having some files in /etc writable and others not. And you cannot use symlinking for this, nor bind mounts, since config files in /

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-08-20 Thread Shravan Singh
Hello Andrei, Thank you for your email. Yes, People have been telling me this: *Changing timezone globally requires changing /etc/localtime link which requires writable /etc. * But no one is telling how to resolve my issue with a read-only rootfs. There are other files which can be overwritten i

Re: [systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-08-20 Thread Andrei Borzenkov
20.08.2020 18:55, Shravan Singh пишет: > Hello, > I have raspberry-pi cm3 which is running an embedded yocto poky linux > warrior branch with mender. > > I have made my rootfs as read-only because of which I am not able to use > timedatectl to change the system time zone. > > I was looking throu

[systemd-devel] Using timedatectl on a readonly rootfile system using mender

2020-08-20 Thread Shravan Singh
Hello, I have raspberry-pi cm3 which is running an embedded yocto poky linux warrior branch with mender. I have made my rootfs as read-only because of which I am not able to use timedatectl to change the system time zone. I was looking through the c code which makes me think that even if I did c