[systemd-devel] [PATCH] build: do not link everything with -lrt (and therefore -pthread)

2013-07-21 Thread Shawn Landden
--- Makefile.am | 1 + configure.ac | 4 +++- 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am index 3ece887..f96866c 100644 --- a/Makefile.am +++ b/Makefile.am @@ -1832,6 +1832,7 @@ libsystemd_daemon_internal_la_SOURCES = \ $(libsystemd_daemon_la_SO

[systemd-devel] unused translations in git

2013-07-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi, so it seems to me, we use gettext to translate the PolicyKit policy files, but we do not actually enable/ship them, as the po files are not added to po/LINGUAS. Admittedly, it's currently only a single translation (Polish), so I was wondering what the intention here is. Do we want systemd to

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 21.07.13 18:14, Ramkumar Ramachandra ([email protected]) wrote: > > Kay Sievers wrote: > > No, sorry, the same rule applies to C code as it does to unit files: > > We do not collect specific exceptions for broken hacks in exotic > > tools. Means: there will be _zero_ matches on UML strin

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.07.13 15:55, Ramkumar Ramachandra ([email protected]) wrote: > > Kay Sievers wrote: > > I would rather see vconsole to detect the mess and silently give up, > > instead of adding exotic options for really weird faked and wrong tty0 > > setups. > > um Linux lacks VT102 emulation, and

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.07.13 15:55, Ramkumar Ramachandra ([email protected]) wrote: > > Kay Sievers wrote: > > I would rather see vconsole to detect the mess and silently give up, > > instead of adding exotic options for really weird faked and wrong tty0 > > setups. > > um Linux lacks VT102 emulation, and

Re: [systemd-devel] [QUERY] getty and terminfo

2013-07-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 21.07.13 00:17, Ramkumar Ramachandra ([email protected]) wrote: Heya, > I noticed that my TERM is set to "linux", even when I boot the > console-getty.service. Isn't it supposed to be "console" instead, > since VT emulation is not guaranteed? Should we explicitly pass the > term argume

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] man: wording and grammar updates

2013-07-21 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Sunday 2013-07-21 17:53, Kay Sievers wrote: >On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >> - disables the rules file entirely. Hwdb files must have the extension >> + disables the rules file entirely. hwdb files must have the extension > >Hmm, you mean to start a senten

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Kay Sievers
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote: >> Hacks like the UML tty0 hack is just a too broken idea, to >> get any support or an exception in a generic tool like systemd. > > I think of it as less of a hack, and more of a deficiency. Nobody > stayed up all night drinking coffe

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Ramkumar Ramachandra
Kay Sievers wrote: > [...] Fwiw, I more-or-less agree with the principle "don't accumulate specific workarounds when it's not scalable or maintainable". > Hacks like the UML tty0 hack is just a too broken idea, to > get any support or an exception in a generic tool like systemd. I think of it as

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH][usbutils] lsusb: port to hwdb

2013-07-21 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 05:49:05PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 01:05:31PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: > >> > However, hwdb only contains vendor, product, class, subclass and > >> > protocol. So if you drop usb.ids the rest o

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] man: wording and grammar updates

2013-07-21 Thread Kay Sievers
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > - disables the rules file entirely. Hwdb files must have the extension > + disables the rules file entirely. hwdb files must have the extension Hmm, you mean to start a sentence with a lowercase word? Looks a bit unusual ... Kay

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH][usbutils] lsusb: port to hwdb

2013-07-21 Thread Kay Sievers
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 01:05:31PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: >> > However, hwdb only contains vendor, product, class, subclass and >> > protocol. So if you drop usb.ids the rest of the information will be >> > lost. >> > >> > Maybe split the rest o

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] man: wording and grammar updates

2013-07-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 06:53:14AM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > This includes regularly-submitted corrections to comma setting and > orthographical mishaps that appeared in man/ in recent commits. > --- > man/crypttab.xml | 4 ++-- > man/journalctl.xml | 2 +- > m

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH][usbutils] lsusb: port to hwdb

2013-07-21 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 01:05:31PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: > > However, hwdb only contains vendor, product, class, subclass and > > protocol. So if you drop usb.ids the rest of the information will be > > lost. > > > > Maybe split the rest out into a separate file and ship only that? > > > > Or i

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH][usbutils] lsusb: port to hwdb

2013-07-21 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:01:11PM +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Greg KH wrote: > > Can this mean I can drop the usb.ids file from the usbutils package? I > > can't remember where hwdb is generated from, does it rely on the usb.ids > > file for the initial creatio

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Ramkumar Ramachandra
Kay Sievers wrote: > You meant to provide a patch against git, not your earlier patches? Ofcourse; I was just asking if this is what you meant before submitting another iteration for inclusion. ___ systemd-devel mailing list [email protected]

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Kay Sievers
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote: > Kay Sievers wrote: >> Where do you see any "specific exceptions for broken hacks"? >> >> We surely support different forms of virtualizations, and support >> reasonable custom behavior. But we do not support providing a tty0 and >> hav

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Ramkumar Ramachandra
Kay Sievers wrote: > Where do you see any "specific exceptions for broken hacks"? > > We surely support different forms of virtualizations, and support > reasonable custom behavior. But we do not support providing a tty0 and > have no working VT. It's just madness we don't want to see anywhere, > a

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Kay Sievers
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote: > Kay Sievers wrote: >> No, sorry, the same rule applies to C code as it does to unit files: >> We do not collect specific exceptions for broken hacks in exotic >> tools. Means: there will be _zero_ matches on UML strings in systemd > >

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Ramkumar Ramachandra
Kay Sievers wrote: > No, sorry, the same rule applies to C code as it does to unit files: > We do not collect specific exceptions for broken hacks in exotic > tools. Means: there will be _zero_ matches on UML strings in systemd Um, then why do we have a detect-virt at all? A quick grep tells me t

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] vconsole-setup: setup negative conditional on uml

2013-07-21 Thread Kay Sievers
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote: > Kay Sievers wrote: >>> If you're so particular about keeping primary unit files "clean", may >>> I suggest moving the exception code to vconsole-setup.c? >> >> That's what I meant, yeah, sorry for the confusion. > > Cool, I understand

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH][usbutils] lsusb: port to hwdb

2013-07-21 Thread Kay Sievers
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Greg KH wrote: >> Can this mean I can drop the usb.ids file from the usbutils package? I >> can't remember where hwdb is generated from, does it rely on the usb.ids >> file for the initial creation? > > hwd

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH][usbutils] lsusb: port to hwdb

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Greg KH wrote: > Can this mean I can drop the usb.ids file from the usbutils package? I > can't remember where hwdb is generated from, does it rely on the usb.ids > file for the initial creation? hwdb does not use the usb.ids from the usbutils package. However,