Re: [systemd-devel] Minimal builds

]] William Hubbs > Another thing to think about from our side is, although the main > components compile quickly on a pc, how long would it take to compile > everything on an ARM-based machine for example? I have no idea, so it > could end up being really annoying to users of that platform for u

Re: [systemd-devel] login/logout hooks in fedora 17?

On 06/18/2012 10:42 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 18.06.12 10:04, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano ([email protected]) wrote: Thanks for any advice! Hmm, so there are multiple ways to achieve this, but it really depends on what you are trying to do here. May I ask what kind of script you

Re: [systemd-devel] Minimal builds

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:49 AM, microcai wrote: > 2012/6/21 William Hubbs >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 06:22:49PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > regarding the whole discussion on minimal builds and people wanting to >> > pick specific parts of the systemd build leaving out others, beyond wh

Re: [systemd-devel] Minimal builds

2012/6/21 William Hubbs > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 06:22:49PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Heya, > > > > regarding the whole discussion on minimal builds and people wanting to > > pick specific parts of the systemd build leaving out others, beyond what > > the configure switches offer: Her

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 01:46:41PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > You could easily build dbus-for-systemd inside the systemd buildroot, > and never install dbus to the sysroot, but in a temporary location. > After building the local dbus, system and udev, you just make install > in only the udev p

Re: [systemd-devel] Minimal builds

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 06:22:49PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya, > > regarding the whole discussion on minimal builds and people wanting to > pick specific parts of the systemd build leaving out others, beyond what > the configure switches offer: Here are some guidelines how we recommen

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Robert Schwebel wrote: > 1)  build other components > 2a) build prerequisites necessary for systemd, which are otherwhise >    unneeded; this needs to be installed into the local sysroot in >    order to let systemd pick up the prerequisites > 2b) build systemd+ud

Re: [systemd-devel] login/logout hooks in fedora 17?

On 06/18/2012 10:42 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 18.06.12 10:04, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano ([email protected]) wrote: Thanks for any advice! Hmm, so there are multiple ways to achieve this, but it really depends on what you are trying to do here. May I ask what kind of script you

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:40:39PM +0200, Robert Schwebel wrote: > Currently, the workflow would be like this: > > 1) build other components > 2a) build prerequisites necessary for systemd, which are otherwhise > unneeded; this needs to be installed into the local sysroot in > order to le

[systemd-devel] 'Offline System Updates' examination

'Offline System Updates' will come as feature for Fedora 18. Reading your official page : The system update script now creates a btrfs snapshot (if possible), then > installs all RPMs. After completion (regardless whether the update > suc

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

Olav, On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 03:25:09PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > Yes really. This is about the end user of the distro. Which means > > comparing installing packages. > > It is only needed during the build, so don't see what you're getting > at. Install when needed, remove after. You miss t

Re: [systemd-devel] Minimal builds

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 06:22:49PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya, > > regarding the whole discussion on minimal builds and people wanting to > pick specific parts of the systemd build leaving out others, beyond what > the configure switches offer: Here are some guidelines how we recommen

[systemd-devel] Minimal builds

Heya, regarding the whole discussion on minimal builds and people wanting to pick specific parts of the systemd build leaving out others, beyond what the configure switches offer: Here are some guidelines how we recommend people to do this: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/MinimalBuil

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 02:34:52PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 01:46:40PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 01:32:52PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:38:22AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > > Shouldn't the build syste

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

2012/6/19 Kay Sievers > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Michael Olbrich > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:21:58AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> On Fri, 15.06.12 20:06, Bryan Kadzban ([email protected]) > wrote: > >> > dbus > >> > libcap > >> > >> I am quite happy with de

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 01:46:40PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 01:32:52PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:38:22AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 06:44:25PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > > > > This is not about the fil

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 01:32:52PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:38:22AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 06:44:25PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > > > This is not about the files from systemd. It's about the dependencies. > > > Every user of a so

Re: [systemd-devel] ssh socket activation (Was: systemd unit files for Debian based systems)

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 07:45:47PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 19.06.12 23:40, Alexander E. Patrakov ([email protected]) wrote: > > IMHO there is one "issue" with the inetd-style approach: it is > > explicitly discouraged in "man sshd". It may well be the case of > > outdated docume

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:38:22AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 06:44:25PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > > This is not about the files from systemd. It's about the dependencies. > > Every user of a source based distro, that only wants systemd now has to > > first install d

Re: [systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 06:44:25PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > This is not about the files from systemd. It's about the dependencies. > Every user of a source based distro, that only wants systemd now has to > first install dbus then udev, and then remove dbus again. Shouldn't the build system

Re: [systemd-devel] ssh socket activation (Was: systemd unit files for Debian based systems)

On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 08:44 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 20.06.12 10:17, Mathieu Bridon ([email protected]) wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 19:15 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Tue, 19.06.12 18:50, Michael Olbrich ([email protected]) wrote: > > > >

Re: [systemd-devel] ssh socket activation (Was: systemd unit files for Debian based systems)

On Wed, 20.06.12 10:17, Mathieu Bridon ([email protected]) wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 19:15 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Tue, 19.06.12 18:50, Michael Olbrich ([email protected]) wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:03:23AM +0200, Lennart P