Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 25.01.12 23:12, Tom Gundersen ([email protected]) wrote: >> In addition to the initrd interfaces for fsck and shutdown (but they >> are not in the table). > > Well, they are included in the "initrd interface" item, the "flag files" >

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.01.12 23:12, Tom Gundersen ([email protected]) wrote: > >> The Arch Linux native initscripts just recently adopted your > >> /etc/locale.conf file, and could go in the "Known Other > >> Implementations" column for that. > >> > >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Locale.conf > > > > Thank

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 25.01.12 13:04, William Swanson ([email protected]) wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Poettering >> wrote: >> > Many of these APIs are already in heavy usage by applications and 3rd >> > party code. >>

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.01.12 13:04, William Swanson ([email protected]) wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > Many of these APIs are already in heavy usage by applications and 3rd > > party code. > > The Arch Linux native initscripts just recently adopted your > /e

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread William Swanson
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Many of these APIs are already in heavy usage by applications and 3rd > party code. The Arch Linux native initscripts just recently adopted your /etc/locale.conf file, and could go in the "Known Other Implementations" column for that.

[systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
Heya, to be nice to those who are interested in maintaining a level of compatibility with the interfaces we have introduced with systemd without making use of systemd, I have put together this extensive (and hopefully comprehensive) table: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Interfac

[systemd-devel] BindTo not working as expected with .target ?

2012-01-25 Thread Frederic Crozat
Hi all, I'm trying to get a .target working as a "trigger one action then go back to not activated state" and despite Lennart help on IRC, it keeps failing, so it might indicate a bug : foobar.target : [Unit] Description=my trigger target BindTo=myaction.service myaction.service: [Unit] Descript

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/25/2012 05:34 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Michal Schmidt ([email protected]) said: We could make "systemctl start ..." dump a few of the service's lines from the journal before exiting. At that point you're then trying to define heuristics about what the proper value for 'a few' is, and

Re: [systemd-devel] hwclock

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.01.12 14:49, David Thurgood ([email protected]) wrote: >Dear Sir, >I am hoping that this is an appropriate place for a "feature request" with >respect to the program hwclock. > >This relates to a very old problem, which as I remember goes back to the >PC's of the

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michal Schmidt ([email protected]) said: > On 01/25/2012 03:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >On Wed, 25.01.12 11:11, Jan Engelhardt ([email protected]) wrote: > >>I would actually prefer if it wrote that to the current tty that > >>invoked the start action, rather than the console which is s

Re: [systemd-devel] hwclock

2012-01-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi David, On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:49 PM, David Thurgood wrote: > I am hoping that this is an appropriate place for a "feature request" with > respect to the program hwclock. hwclock is part of the util-linux package, so you'd probably have more luck emailing . systemd does not write to your rt

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build-sys: add creation of /var/lib/systemd path, used by logind

2012-01-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:43:35 +0100 Kay Sievers wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 16:33, Mike Kazantsev wrote: ... > > > > Not sure if it has to be abstracted via localstatedir or something, but > > since it's hard-coded in logind anyway, I thought not to bother with it. > >  logind-install-data-h

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build-sys: add creation of /var/lib/systemd path, used by logind

2012-01-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 16:33, Mike Kazantsev wrote: > Good day, > > Another issue I've spotted with logind on my system. > > "systemd-loginctl enable-linger" goes to src/login/logind-dbus.c:1191, > which seem to do: > >  r = safe_mkdir("/var/lib/systemd/linger", 0755, 0, 0); > > ...and fails, pro

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/25/2012 03:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 25.01.12 11:11, Jan Engelhardt ([email protected]) wrote: I would actually prefer if it wrote that to the current tty that invoked the start action, rather than the console which is stowed away in a deep cellar... We explicitly want to

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] build-sys: add creation of /var/lib/systemd path, used by logind

2012-01-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
Good day, Another issue I've spotted with logind on my system. "systemd-loginctl enable-linger" goes to src/login/logind-dbus.c:1191, which seem to do: r = safe_mkdir("/var/lib/systemd/linger", 0755, 0, 0); ...and fails, producing something like "D-Bus call failed: No such file or directory"

Re: [systemd-devel] hwclock

2012-01-25 Thread David Thurgood
Dear Sir, I am hoping that this is an appropriate place for a "feature request" with respect to the program hwclock. This relates to a very old problem, which as I remember goes back to the PC's of the 70's and 80's.  My present PC seems to have just

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] logind: add sys_tty_config capability, to let it use VT_ACTIVATE ioctl on "activate" action

2012-01-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
Good day, Problem is that "systemd-loginctl activate " gives something like "D-Bus call failed: Operation not permitted", while strace of logind process looks like this: epoll_wait(4, {{EPOLLIN, {u32=3, u64=3}}}, 1, -1) = 1 epoll_wait(9, {{EPOLLIN, {u32=166352544, u64=166352544}}}, 1, 0) = 1 rec

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.01.12 11:11, Jan Engelhardt ([email protected]) wrote: > >[v39] > >* If a group "adm" exists, journal files are automatically > > owned by them > > This sounds like it has the potential that journal files suddenly > beomce writable by a random user group that has existed previously.

Re: [systemd-devel] automount regression

2012-01-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > I noticed a regression in the automount handling that I could not > immediately figure out. I know for a fact that this used to work "a > long time ago", and that it does not work with v39, but I have not > bisected further. It seems this w

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:59, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 25. Januar 2012 12:00 schrieb Kay Sievers : >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:11, Jan Engelhardt wrote: >>> On Wednesday 2012-01-25 02:02, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> [v39] * If a group "adm" exists, journal files are automatically >>>

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 25. Januar 2012 12:00 schrieb Kay Sievers : > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:11, Jan Engelhardt wrote: >> On Wednesday 2012-01-25 02:02, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >>>[v39] >>>* If a group "adm" exists, journal files are automatically >>>  owned by them >> >> This sounds like it has the potential

[systemd-devel] automount regression

2012-01-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi guys, I noticed a regression in the automount handling that I could not immediately figure out. I know for a fact that this used to work "a long time ago", and that it does not work with v39, but I have not bisected further. Entries from fstab: /boot ext2noauto,comment=systemd.autom

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:11, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Wednesday 2012-01-25 02:02, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>[v39] >>* If a group "adm" exists, journal files are automatically >>  owned by them > > This sounds like it has the potential that journal files suddenly > beomce writable by a rando

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Wednesday 2012-01-25 02:02, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >People have been asking us to maintain a NEWS file for systemd. We have >now added that: >http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/plain/NEWS >I have included all news from the previous release v38 there, please >have a look. >[v39] >