Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-20 Thread Ian Evans
On Fri, July 20, 2007 4:17 pm, Mucs Béla wrote: > Returning from my vacatin as surprise I could send mails to hotmail. > Cool...Thanks Hotmail. I may have spoken too soon about my experience. Just sent a couple of test messages to the hotmail account. Just short messages you might send to a frien

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-20 Thread Mucs Béla
- Original Message - From: "Ian Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rainer Sokoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail >> You could configure your MT

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-20 Thread Ian Evans
> You could configure your MTA that it drops the Received: lines. I did > this for sendmail a long time ago. Cannot remeber /how/ I did this :-( Strangely, hotmail started accepting mail from SM a few hours ago. I say "strangely" because it still doesn't explain why it would accept mail from Thund

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-20 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 05:26:05PM -0400, Ian Evans wrote: > On Thu, July 19, 2007 3:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > My own SM mails don't have the same form of first RECEIVED: line as > > yours, but I don't know all the ins and outs of how SM decides what to > > do. > > So, fellow listers, is

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-19 Thread Ian Evans
> junk, nobody should be using hotmail anymore. I agree, but until I can convince all their users to switch, I have to try and solve this problem. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-19 Thread Res
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Rainer Sokoll wrote: > Don't worry. > Hotmail is service from idiots for idiots. I agree, they mark mail from their own users never as junk, when it always IS spam, and norma

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-19 Thread Ian Evans
On Thu, July 19, 2007 3:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My own SM mails don't have the same form of first RECEIVED: line as > yours, but I don't know all the ins and outs of how SM decides what to > do. So, fellow listers, is there a way to change how SM does the rec'd lines? Could the first rec

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-19 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 01:22:08PM -0400, Ian Evans wrote: > I have contacted Hotmail Support (now there's an oxymoron!) and for the > last week or so I've been doing the head-against-desk round of emails > where you try and convince them that you ARE the administrator of the > domain so stop aski

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-19 Thread bill-squirrelmail
ie> Are you saying that Hotmail might have a problem with the ie> "proxying for" or the IP address that follows? The specific IP address, not the phrase (but who knows?). Many spam-scoring things give some bad-guy points for messages which appear to have originated on DSL or dial-up lines (becaus

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-19 Thread Ian Evans
> Received: from 127.0.0.1 (proxying for 74.14.107.225) > (SquirrelMail authenticated user [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > by www.digitalhit.com with HTTP; > Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Just to clarify... Are you saying that Hotmail might have a problem with the "proxying for"

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-19 Thread bill-squirrelmail
ie> Been a hard one to Google. I've seen a lot of entries about people ie> having problems with PHP mail() and Hotmail, but I'm not. The only ie> issue left in our situation is the Squirrelmail-handled emails ie> being dropped. Your first RECEIVED: line looks like this. Perhaps Hotmail is picking

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-19 Thread Ian Evans
>probably this is obvious but it doesn't hurt to double-check: is the SMTP >server the _same_ in all three cases? Yes it is. I have contacted Hotmail Support (now there's an oxymoron!) and for the last week or so I've been doing the head-against-desk round of emails where you try and convince the

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-18 Thread M. Fioretti
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 00:55:55 AM -0400, Ian Evans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Just wanted to quickly update this issue: > > 1) Email sent from our domain to hotmail.com IS delivered if sent via > Outlook or Thunderbird > 2) Email sent from our domain to hotmail.com IS delivered if sent via a > s

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-18 Thread Ian Evans
Just wanted to quickly update this issue: After double checking any scripts (thanks for feedback, send to a friend) that we have that use the mail() function, they are getting through to a hotmail inbox. So... 1) Email sent from our domain to hotmail.com IS delivered if sent via Outlook or Thund

Re: [SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-18 Thread Chris Hilts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Evans wrote: > I've noticed that mail sent by a program like outlook or thunderbird will > make it through, but email sent via the php mail() function or via > squirrelmail is not making it. I haven't noticed this issue myself. That said, I'd lik

[SM-USERS] Problems with hotmail dropping mail sent via Squirrelmail

2007-07-18 Thread Ian Evans
Been having fun with the hotmail mail server accepting mail from our domain, queuing it for delivery and then dropping it. Doesn't reach the inbox, junk, anything. I've noticed that mail sent by a program like outlook or thunderbird will make it through, but email sent via the php mail() function