Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-23 Thread Chris Hostetter
: now I have simple Lucene Indexes that basically re-created once daily and : that simply isn't doing the job for about 30% of my content. do you mean it takes to long to index all your content so you can only do part of it, or do you mean it's not indexing some of your conent "well" ? : For in

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-23 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
m Archambault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:15:42 PM Subject: Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box Okay. We are all on the same page. I just don't express myself as well in "programming speak" yet. I'm going

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Tim Archambault
Amen Hoss. I appreciated you explaining in terms of what I can understand, "jobs." Makes it easier for me to learn. What you are saying is right-on with what I'm trying to understand. Right now I have simple Lucene Indexes that basically re-created once daily and that simply isn't doing the job

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Chris Hostetter
: I've been talking with other papers about Solr and I think what bothers many : is that there a is a deposit of information in a structured database here : [named A], then we have another set of basically the same data over here : [named B] and they don't understand why they have to manage to dif

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread J.J. Larrea
Regarding XML databases, there is an excellent open-source XML database 'eXist' which currently uses indexes to speed up both structure-based and content-based retrieval via XQuery; there are plans on their development roadmap to replace parts of the indexing mechanism, particularly fulltext ana

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Tim Archambault
Okay. We are all on the same page. I just don't express myself as well in "programming speak" yet. I'm going to read up on Otis' "Lucene in Action" tonight. I'd swear he had an example of how to inject records into a lucene index using java and sql. Maybe I'm wrong though. On 9/22/06, Walter U

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Joachim Martin
I think you will find that this architecture is quite common. What commercial packages provide (remember you are getting this for free!) are the tools for managing the dynamic export of data out of your database into the full-text search engine. Solr provides a very easy way to do this, but ye

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Walter Underwood
Sorry, I was not being exact with "store". Lucene has separate control over whether the value of a field is stored and whether it is indexed. The term "nurse" might be searchable, but the only value that is stored in the index for retrieval is the database key for each matching job. It seems like

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 9/22/06, Tim Archambault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been talking with other papers about Solr and I think what bothers many is that there a is a deposit of information in a structured database here [named A], then we have another set of basically the same data over here [named B] and they

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Tim Archambault
I'm really confused. I don't mean "store" the data figuratively as in a lucene/solr command. Storing an ID number in a solr index isn't going to help a user find "nurse". I think part of this is that some people feel that databases like MSSQL, MYSQL should be able to provide quality search experie

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Walter Underwood
On 9/22/06 12:25 PM, "Tim Archambault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A recruitment (jobs) customer goes onto our website and posts an online job > posting to our newspaper website. Upon insert into the database, I need to > generate an xml file to be sent to SOLR to ADD as a record to the search >

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Tim Archambault
Okay, I'll use an example. A recruitment (jobs) customer goes onto our website and posts an online job posting to our newspaper website. Upon insert into the database, I need to generate an xml file to be sent to SOLR to ADD as a record to the search engine. Same goes for an edit, my database u

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Sep 22, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Tim Archambault wrote: I believe there's a way to access MSSQL, MySQL etc. directly with Lucene, but not sure how to do this with SOLR. Nope. Lucene is a pure search engine, with no hooks to databases, or document parsers, etc. Lots of folks have built these

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Tim Archambault
Obvious datasources: MSSQL, MySQL, etc. I'm under the impression that I have to send an XML request to SOLR for every add, update, delete, etc. in my database. I believe there's a way to access MSSQL, MySQL etc. directly with Lucene, but not sure how to do this with SOLR. Thanks for all your fee

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 9/22/06, Tim Archambault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a couple of questions from some online newspaper folks who are interested in Solr and are trying to understand how and why it came to be. I think inherent in these questions is the underlying theme I hear all the time and that is "Solr

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-22 Thread Tim Archambault
I have a couple of questions from some online newspaper folks who are interested in Solr and are trying to understand how and why it came to be. I think inherent in these questions is the underlying theme I hear all the time and that is "Solr is not a content management system. It's a search engin

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-12 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Sep 12, 2006, at 4:15 AM, Kevin Lewandowski wrote: Is it possible that the facets can be based on the contents of an entire field instead of the terms? For this, you could use a to copy one field into another field where one is tokenized and the other is not. And then return facets fo

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-12 Thread Kevin Lewandowski
Is it possible that the facets can be based on the contents of an entire field instead of the terms? For example say I have a document with this field: Hip Hop A facet query on the genre field returns: 1 1 but I'd like it to return: 1 thanks, Kevin

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-10 Thread Chris Hostetter
: > > What is "faceted browsing"? Maybe an example of a site interface Whoops! ... sorry about that, i tend to get ahead of my self. The examples Erik pointed out are very representative, but there are more subtle ways faceted searching can come into play -- for example, if you look at these two

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-10 Thread Tim Archambault
For those using PHP to interface with can you explain to me how your PHP code interacts with Solr? Does PHP create a query_string manually and post an URL like this: http://localhost:8983/solr/select?q=vertical%3Ajobs+accounting&version=2.1&start=0&rows=10&fl=&qt=standard&stylesheet=&indent=on&exp

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-10 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Sep 9, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Tim Archambault wrote: I need to understand this then. Thanks. I want to use Solr for our newspaper website and this would be a great way to break out content. Kind of greys the lines between what is search and what is browsing categories, which is a great thing

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-09 Thread James liu
Good. Thk u,Hoss. 2006/9/9, Tim Archambault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hoss, What is "faceted browsing"? Maybe an example of a site interface that is using it would be good. Dumb question, I know. On 9/8/06, Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey everybody, I just wanted to officiall

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-09 Thread Tim Archambault
I need to understand this then. Thanks. I want to use Solr for our newspaper website and this would be a great way to break out content. Kind of greys the lines between what is search and what is browsing categories, which is a great thing actually. Thanks for the help. Tim On 9/9/06, Erik Hatc

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-09 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Sep 9, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Tim Archambault wrote: What is "faceted browsing"? Maybe an example of a site interface that is using it would be good. Dumb question, I know. Faceted browsing is like this: http://shopper.cnet.com/ and http:// www.nines.org/collex In Collex, the "constrain fu

Re: Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-09 Thread Tim Archambault
Hoss, What is "faceted browsing"? Maybe an example of a site interface that is using it would be good. Dumb question, I know. On 9/8/06, Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey everybody, I just wanted to officially announce that as of the solr-2006-09-08.zip nightly build, Solr suppo

Simple Faceted Searching out of the box

2006-09-08 Thread Chris Hostetter
Hey everybody, I just wanted to officially announce that as of the solr-2006-09-08.zip nightly build, Solr supports some simple Faceted Searching options right out of the box. Both the StandardRequestHandler and DisMaxRequestHandler now support some query params for specifying simple queries to u