Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread Roman Chyla
Hi Dave, On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:03 PM, dmarini wrote: > Roman, > > As a developer, I understand where you are coming from. My issue is that I > specialize in .NET, haven't done java dev in over 10 years. As an > organization we're new to solr (coming from endeca) and we're looking to > use

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread Jack Krupansky
e a quoted phrase.) -- Jack Krupansky -Original Message- From: dmarini Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:03 PM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion Roman, As a developer, I understand where you are coming from. My issue is that I

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread dmarini
Roman, As a developer, I understand where you are coming from. My issue is that I specialize in .NET, haven't done java dev in over 10 years. As an organization we're new to solr (coming from endeca) and we're looking to use it more across the organization, so for us, we are looking to do the clas

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread Jack Krupansky
e.org Subject: Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion As I don't see in the heads of the users, I can make different assumptions - but OK, seems reasonable that only minority of users here are actually willing to do more (btw, I've received coding advice in the past here in t

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread Roman Chyla
rch for query-time phrase > synonyms, off-the-shelf, today, no patches required.) > > > -- Jack Krupansky > > -Original Message- From: Roman Chyla > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:44 AM > > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > Subject: Re: Searching w/expli

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread Jack Krupansky
(And, in fact, users can use LucidWorks Search for query-time phrase synonyms, off-the-shelf, today, no patches required.) -- Jack Krupansky -Original Message- From: Roman Chyla Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:44 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Wor

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread Roman Chyla
ing made, but we're not there yet. > > -- Jack Krupansky > > -Original Message- From: Roman Chyla > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:58 AM > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion > > Hi all, > >

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread Jack Krupansky
---Original Message- From: Roman Chyla Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:58 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion Hi all, What I find very 'sad' is that Lucene/SOLR contain all the necessary components for handling multi-to

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread Jack Krupansky
Jack Krupansky -Original Message- From: dmarini Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:37 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion iorixxx, Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the QueryElevation component. If it did not require tha

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread Roman Chyla
Hi all, What I find very 'sad' is that Lucene/SOLR contain all the necessary components for handling multi-token synonyms; the Finite State Automaton works perfectly for matching these items; the biggest problem is IMO the old query parser which split things on spaces and doesn't know to be smarte

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-17 Thread dmarini
iorixxx, Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the QueryElevation component. If it did not require that the target documents be keyed by the unique key field it would be ideal, but since our Sku field is not the Unique field (we have an internal id which serves as the key while this is the cl

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-16 Thread Ahmet Arslan
Hi Dmarin, Did you consider using http://wiki.apache.org/solr/QueryElevationComponent ? From: Jack Krupansky To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:53 AM Subject: Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion In case

Re: Searching w/explicit Multi-Word Synonym Expansion

2013-07-16 Thread Jack Krupansky
In case you were unaware, generalized multi-word synonym expansion is an unsolved problem in Lucene/Solr. Sure, some of the tools are there and you can sometimes make it work for some situations, but not for the general case. Some work has been in progress, but no near-term solution is at hand.